ZGram - 8/8/2004 - "Jews or Zionists" - Part II and III

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August 8, 2004

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

I am combining Part II and III of the news group commentary titled 
"Jews or Zionists."  Part II has particular insights valuable for 
non-Germans, I think, because few people not from Europe realize how 
nauseatingly maddening that endless Holocaustomania feels that we 
have to endure. 

I find Part III a bit disconcerting because I happen to know, like 
and respect Joh Domingo, but I can't really fit some of his take on 
the question of anti-semitism to what else I have otherwise seen from 
his pen. I wouldn't have thought him to be a man who would describe 
Jews like "Šbaby Harp seals - all cute and cuddly." I have the 
disconcerting feeling I am missing something here. I have yet to see 
or know a Jew I would describe that way.  Would you?

Make of it what you will.

For your convenience, I bring you again that portion of the Israel 
Shamir summary that pertains to this part of the newsgroup exchange 
where he introduces the writers of Part II and Part III:

"Second item is a German nationalist perspective, who is not so much 
interested in Palestine but is annoyed by Jewish positions in German 
discourse. The third and the best is a honed letter by our friend Joh 
Domingo from South Africa/Australia, more or less representing our 
view." 

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   2. Fighting Jewish influence in Germany - from a rightist mail-serve

This reminds me of a scene I saw in a movie once, where two boxers 
were fighting it out...one fighter was getting badly pounded but a 
man in the audience kept screaming at him 'GO GET HIM'.

  Finally the badly beaten boxer staggered to the ringside and said to 
this one screamer 'YOU GO GET HIM'.

  That's the answer I get when I talk to my friends here in Germany 
about the subject of fighting Jewish influence.

  Younger Germans are really only interested in the latest ringing 
sounds for their mobilephones.

  The older Germans don't want to lose what pension they still get...
  We had THREE TV stations showing Holocaust films last night and one 
other TV station showing how Prof Haber developed Gas in WW1, and the 
local newspapers are running Anne Frank's book in instalments ... Die 
Welt Newspaper runs at least two full pages on Jewish Culture in each 
edition ... Polish TV has KLEZMER music on almost every night, it's 
carpet bombardment of the senses.

  On one local TV programme, a Miss Tina Mendelssohn runs a show 
called KULTUR where EVERY NIGHT she manages to get this sentence ...

  'ALS DIE DEUTSCHEN DIE EUROPÄISCHEN JUDEN ERMORDET HABEN' -when the 
Germans murdered the European Jews - into the show at least once a 
night, if not more.

  Who owns most of Germany's TV stations now?

  CHAIM SABAN, a Jewish-American' billionaire ... I think Germany is 
more judaised now than Tel Aviv. 

   Paul 

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   3. Letter of Joh Domingo to his pro-Palestinian friend who was 
worried by 'anti-Jewish remarks' on our list:

  Do you really believe that activists can live on a diet of 
regurgitated statistics of Palestinian dead, on wall stories and 
tales of Israeli oppression? We need variety to supplement the staple 
diet.

  There is no danger that genuine Jewish friends of Palestine will 
abandon the Palestinians on account of me, although these same Jews 
seem to be implying that there is. So let us look at this rationally. 
If, as has been suggested, Jews are repelled by 'anti-Semitic' 
imagery, why do they then hive to repel any suggestion of 
anti-Semitism?

  Clearly, anti-Semitism attracts Jews if only to rush to the breach. 
To attract bees, nectar; to attract Jews, anti-Semitism.

  What a disappointment it must be to then find a group sitting around 
laughing at the ridiculous spectacle of a hive rushing to defend Jews 
from...what? Nobody is dropping bombs on Jews from 60,000 ft. nobody 
is imprisoning them in ghettos.

  I know that you are well aware of these things, and you also know 
how hard I have tried to hate Jews; but it is impossible, it is like 
trying to hate stuckinsamsara's baby Harp seals - all cute and 
cuddly. So, I can only assume that you are concerned that my 
reputation will alienate Jews from listening to what I might say, but 
the opposite is the case. I find that more and more Jews are in the 
circle; to the point where I don't concern myself about who is a Jew 
or not.

  Ridicule, is the essence of my kind of Nationalism and is the key 
IMV to alienating Jews from their leaders - the wrong kind. That is 
why Jewish leaders desperately manufacture real incidents of 
'anti-Semitism'. The burning of crosses on Jewish homes and the 
self-inflicted knife wounds of Rabbis.

  To analyze 'anti-Semitism', one would be struck at the absurdity of 
likening an act of ethnocentric ridicule to the worst excesses of 
Hitler; but it is done constantly. It is not permitted compare Israel 
to the Nazi regime, but it is permitted to call me a Nazi.

  I search in vain for real acts of anti-Semitism, but it almost does 
not exist outside acts of political terror. Carlos the Jackal tries 
to kill a Jew in London; an act of political terror. Black September 
kills nine Israeli Olympians; an act of political terror. A 
wheelchair bound Jew is cast into the sea; an act of political 
terror. Do you see the pattern? Never enraged mobs destroying a 
Jewish neighbourhood, or the KKK lynching a Jew, just because he is a 
Jew. No Jew is ever attacked because of holocaust denial. It would be 
more relevant if anti-Semitism were colour-coded.

[Ingrid's comment here:  David Cole, a young Jews, was attacked, 
seriously harmed and threatened with death by the Jewish Defense 
League for being a revisionist, also known as a "Holocaust Denier."]

  An absence of anti-Semitism is philo-Semitism. We are being placed 
in the absurd position of agitating for Palestinian rights by 
preaching love for the Jews. This is supposed to cause people to 
identify with the cause, and demand what is right?

  Did Britain not preach that the Kaiser was bayoneting Belgium 
children; in order to agitate for American intervention in WWI? Was 
not the Hun painted as a beast in order to gain solidarity against 
the Nazis? Did Saddam not empty the incubators of premature children? 
Yet, we are expected to mobilize opinion against saints. No, people 
must know that Sharon drinks the blood of Palestinian children, and 
Jews better know that they support the drinking of the blood of 
Palestinian children. It is true, what does it matter that they don't 
really feast, but merely slaughter?

  This kind of rhetoric is supposed to be beyond the pale; beyond 
civilized discourse, but that is only an assertion. I can assure you 
that it is the daily fare in Washington and Tel Aviv. Only the 
subject is not Jews, but Muslims and anti-Semites It is not a 
question of being a bridge between Jews and non-Jews; It is a 
question of being stalwart, a rampart, over which Jews must scale, in 
order to be on the right side. Many Jews have done so already, why 
not you?

  JohD  

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