ZGram - 2/22/02 - "Geneva Convetion - Outdated?"
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Copyright (c) 2002 - Ingrid A. Rimland
ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny
February 22, 2002
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
Read this from today's Independent!
The Geneva Convention rules are now being conveniently changed - or will they?
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The Geneva Conventions are outdated and need to be rewritten to deal
with the threat of international terrorism, the United States
ambassador for war crimes said yesterday.
The forthright views of Pierre-Richard Prosper, who was personally
appointed by President Bush, will fuel the controversy over the treatment
of Afghan detainees by America. His remarks, in an interview with The
Independent, represent the first time a senior figure in the Bush
administration has spoken so unambiguously about an overhaul of the
conventions. They reflect Washington's exasperation at criticism by
Western allies and international organisations of its treatment of
prisoners at Camp X-Ray on Cuba.
The Geneva Conventions have tempered some of the worst excesses of
modern warfare, and attempts to tamper with them are bound to lead to
opposition. However, there is a growing feeling in the administration that
the present form of the conventions, signed in 1949, does not take into
account the new type of conflict in which individuals and organisations,
such as al-Qa'ida, rather than states, wage war.
"We should look at all international documents to see whether they are
compatible with this moment in history. We should look at them now, and
look at them again in the future, in 20 years' time, in 50 years' time,"
Mr Prosper said.
"The war on terror is a new type of war not envisaged when the Geneva
Conventions were negotiated and signed. We now have organisations that
... do not conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and
customs of war."
The ambassador stressed that the Geneva Conventions remained relevant
for wars between sovereign states. Difficulties had only arisen when they
had been applied to international terrorism.
Mr Prosper, the son of Haitian immigrants, is a respected jurist who
successfully prosecuted the first case under the 1948 Genocide Convention
at the Rwanda war crimes tribunal. He is in Europe to defend American
policy towards its Afghan prisoners, and met Foreign Office officials
yesterday.
Washington's position on the prisoners has been inconsistent. After
initially declaring that none was entitled to the protection of the
conventions, President Bush said this month that Taliban prisoners fell
under Geneva but al-Qa'ida prisoners would not. He later added to the
confusion by saying that Taliban prisoners would not have PoW status but
would be treated as "unlawful combatants".
But Mr Prosper said yesterday: "Analysis of the Geneva Conventions leads
us to the conclusion that the Taliban detainees do not meet the legal
criteria under Article 4."
He stressed that the prisoners, whom he had visited, were being well
looked after and some of the privileges of the Geneva Conventions had
been extended to them.
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Zundelsite comment:
Rather than attempting to change an international convention, would it not
be simpler, cheaper and more civilized and ethical to live up to its rules?
What is it that the Geneva Convention forbids? Sharon will be pleased with
this move - another 9/11 bonus for the Israelis for their brutal treatment
of the Palestinians!
Changing the rules of the game won't prevent terrorism. It will merely
allow state terrorism to fight resistance terrorism.
Also, consider this: The Allied nations trained and financed terrorists.
Only they weren't called "terrorists" - they had noble names such as
"guerrillas" or, better yet, "resistance fighters". Certainly during World
War II, their use was against similar rules of civilized warfare. Did the
Soviet partisans, Tito's killers, or the French Resistance "conduct their
operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war"? No, they
sneaked up on civilians, often in civilian clothes, and brutally mutilated
and murdered them!
The Internet is rife with stories of torture of Irish Republican guerrillas
by "Her Majesty's torturers in the 1970s. The Geneva Convention was then
in place!
And, finally, the Geneva Convention expects access to all prisoners by such
organizations as the Red Cross - not only those select few who may have
been "visited" after they were cleaned up and prepared for such a public
relations "visit". That's why the Red Cross has a policy of doing spot
checks. Even Auschwitz and Dachau had visiting inspectors from the
International Red Cross in World War II - who gave the Germans a clean bill
of health because they could not find those rumored "gas chambers"! If you
doubt that, write to the International Red Cross, 9 Ave de la Paix, Geneva,
Switzerland and ask for their 140 page, 1945 report of those visits to
German concentration camps!
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