*** Prominent Revisionist speaker at Kiev Conference ***

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To all media and Zundelsite friends:

This is an extremely important write-up about the state of 
Revisionism, sent to me by the Shamir listserve.  Please place 
prominently - world-wide!

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We continue to publish materials of Kiev conference with this talk by 
Serge Thion, an eminent French historian and orientalist. Thion was 
an important French intellectual of the left when he entered the 
holocaust controversy; he was besmirched, lost his job, was 
marginalised. But he still works; on a personal level, he is the most 
pleasant of the Revisionist scholars, and a strong representative of 
the Left wing in this movement.

Some people connect him with the unique site AAARGH .   This world, 
like your car wheel, has to be balanced; and the abundance of Jewish 
triumphalist sites calls for some voices less enamoured with Jews. 
And I do not mean the objective sites who try to create the balance 
in their own presentation, like Counterpunch, Antiwar or even 
JewishTribalReview. This site is constantly under attack. Fortunately 
two mirros sites exist and are still active:

<<http://vho.org/aaargh>http://vho.org/aaargh> and 
<<http://aaargh.com.mx>http://aaargh.com.mx>

here is a short article which explains the situation:


Eight associations attack ISP's (Internet service providers)

by Catherine COROLLER

Is the pionneer deniers' site AAARGH living its last moments ? Eight 
associations (1) would like to believe it is. They have araigned in 
court, on emergency procedure, US providers of this site, ant the 
main French Internet access providers. (2)

Their hope in grounded in the new law, called "Trust in the Digital 
Economy", passed in June 2004. The law says that the judge migh order 
any kind of measure to stop the damage caused by the content of an 
online communication service.

Antijewish hate.

In a nutshell, the US providers being out of reach, the judge may 
impose upon the French access providers a filter that would forbid 
the French user to access the concerned Internet URL's.

If the eight associations are aiming at AAARGH (Association of 
Ancient Amateurs of War and Holocaust Tales) it is because their 
site, founded in 1996, active in eight languages, is "known and 
aknowledged as one of the most powerful transmitter of antijewish 
hate on the Internet."

Its declared aim is to show that "there was no homicidal massive 
gassings in the German concentration camps during the nazi periode".

Internet users may download freely 230 negationist books and 
pamphlets, including the works of Robert Faurisson or Jean Plantin, 
issues of the Akribeia journal, Bagatelles pour un massacre, by 
Louis-Ferdinand Celine, or Les Décombres, by Lucien Rebatet, 
described as "the most famous book among all those which were 
published during WW II" [All these books are more or less banned or 
their publication forbidden in today's France. trsl.]

Moving

Does AAARGH feel threatened ? One of its two URLs does not function. 
The second one does and the publisher of the site, whose identity 
nobody knows, has started a third one. This successive moves raise 
the question of the efficiency of filters. Although the Movement 
against Racism and for the Friendship Among People  (Mrap) joined the 
seven organizations in the action, Gerard Kerforn, member of the 
politburo, has expressed his doubts : «There will be a race. These 
people will migrate ceaselessly.» Marc Knobel, chairman of I accuse, 
is conscious about the risk, but he takes the responsability: «We'll 
pursue them as long as needed.»

Audience in court on Monday 14 march.

(1) Union of the Jewish Students of France, SOS
Racism, I accuse... International Action for
Justice, French League for the Defense of Human
and Citisen's Rights, Movement against Racism and
for the Friendship Among People, Memory 2000,
Union od the Auschwitz Deportees, The Central
[Jewish] Consistory.

(2) France Telecom (Wanadoo), Free, AOL France,
Tiscali Access, Neuf (nine) Telecom, Tele2 France,
Suez Lyonnaise Telecom, T-Online France,
Numericable, GIP Renater (A school community
network).


  Libération 8 mars 2005

<http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=280707>http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=280707

And now - his Kiev talk:

EUROPEAN REVISIONISM IN THE BATTLE AGAINST ZIONISM

by Serge Thion

There are not many places on the surface of this planet where a group 
of scholars coming from various countries can speak freely about 
Zionism. Durban, four years ago, had been such a place but the 
meeting was not a scholarly one. Some of our revisionist friends 
tried to organize in Beirut, some years ago, a conference on 
«Revisionism and Zionism», but at the request of the Israeli state, 
the US put a pressure on the Lebanese government and threatened to 
kill a fifteen-million dollars loan. The conference did not take 
place. So, we appreciate the opportunity to meet and talk together, 
and we express our gratitude to the organizers.


The Holocaust revisionist movement is certainly well-known by all of 
you. But we have been particularly unsuccessful in raising an 
interest for it in the territories covered by the former Soviet 
Union. In many conversations with people there, we always get more or 
less the same response: «The Jews are lying? No big news. We've known 
it all along».  We believe this is not the adequate answer. There is 
more to it.

The Holocaust revisionist study of the events of WWII started soon 
after the Nuremberg International Military Trial which ended in 1946. 
The transcripts were published very soon after the trial, though not 
in Russian as it was supposed to be. Several observers, of various 
political persuasions, started to read closely the transcripts and 
the documents, forty-two volumes as a whole, with a critical mind. 
They found a lot of discrepancies and impossibilities. All along, for 
instance, the Katyn massacre was consistently attributed to the 
Germans. Testimonies were vague, or contradictory, and often 
difficult to believe. These observers started to write and their 
works were labelled «revisionist». Of course, criticizing the 
official line on the «victory» of the Allies was politically 
forbidden.  These authors, the most prominent of them being the 
Frenchman Paul Rassinier, met, all of them, long prosecutions, heavy 
fines, interdiction of books and political diffamation. The story 
would be too long to be told here.

At the beginning, the Nuremberg explanation fo Nazism and WWII was a 
compromise between the USA, the UK and the USSR. Each partner had 
introduced its own dose of war propaganda. The Soviets had 
established an enormous propaganda system, which was run mostly by 
Soviet Jews, like Il'ia Ehrenburg and Vasilij Grossman and others. 
The British had their own special unit designed to invent war stories 
depicting the Germans as ghoulish barbarians. Compared to these 
giants, Nazi propaganda was simplistic and inefficient.

At Nuremberg, confronted with the war stories concocted by the Allied 
propaganda offices, the Nazi officials looked bewildered, shaken into 
disbelief. But, having no access to the mass of German documents used 
by the Allied prosecutors, very often German Jews emigrated in the 
US, the Naszi officials, or most of them, gave up any resistance, did 
not contest the so-called documents put to them, the pictures and the 
movies. They kept silent and were silently disposed of.

So, for the next fifteen years after the War, the Revisionist fight 
was directed against the Allied official version of what happened 
during the War. Then a new factor intervened. The Israeli Prime 
Minister Ben Gourion was rather skeptical about the possibilities of 
survival of the Jewish State, established in lucky circumstances in 
1948. But would the luck remain as the odds were piling up? Ben 
Gourion ordered Eichmann to be abducted from Argentina and brought 
into Israel for a big show-trial, a kind of re-enactment of Nuremberg 
but at the exclusive service of the Zionist ideology. The same 
carefully selected documents and the same vague testimonies were 
produced in court, in front of the world press. The ultimate weapon 
of the survival of Israel was forged there, in 1961 : the guilt 
attributed to all non-Jewish people, non-Jewish States and 
organizations. All of them had to pay reparation and retribution, for 
ever, till the end of ages.

As a result, the revisionist fight was submitted to a change in 
nature : its foremost adversary became the Zionist establishment and 
its manifold network of organizations. Moreover, the Zionists had no 
alternative : they expected nothing from the benevolence of Western 
opinion and they had lost the support of the Eastern block. They were 
bound to acquire some kind of world dominance just to warrant the 
existence of the Zionist statelet, rejected by everyone in the Middle 
East. Armed with the weapon of the guilt complex, they started to 
overcome all resistance and impose silence on their critiques. They 
had a very large measure of influence on the press; they slowly 
conquered positions of control in the Western political systems, 
particularly inside the US power structure.

The Holocaust revisionists, a mere handful of individuals, never 
formed a group or an organization. They never had any power, nor any 
money, nor connections, but they succeeded by the sheer weight of 
their labours to make serious inroads and to penetrate the Zionist 
defense system, creating a havoc in the public opinion. Demonstrating 
that the so-called Holocaust was rather a «holy cost» threatened the 
political basis on which Zionism was operating. In Europe, lobbies 
succeeded in obtaining new laws severely curtailing the freedom of 
the press.

The two main weapons used by the Zionists were demonization by the 
media, and long, exhausting trials. The free expression of Revisionsm 
has been saved purely by chance, thanks to the development of the 
Internet. As early as 1995 - ten years ago -a revisionist website was 
established in the US, the CODOH by Bradley Smith. In 1996, the 
Zundelsite was created at the same time as AAARGH, the mostly 
French-speaking website. Others followed. This was a fantastic 
development. So far, revisionist literature was difficult to find, 
published by small groups in faraway countries, often as a 
side-activity.  For the first time, the basic texts and 
demonstrations written by revisionist researchers could be seen and 
read by millions of readers world-wide.

The Zionist started to howl. Their only response was to label all 
revisionist efforts as antisemitic, extreme-right and whitewashing 
Hitler. This propaganda barrage has been particularly unefficient.

A new war has started. Worming their way into the political system of 
national states, Zionist organizations tried to obtain laws 
protecting the sacrosanct identity of the so-called Holocaust. In 
2000, the Isrraeli government sent a high-powered mission to all 
western governments to request from them new measures in order to 
annihilate Revisionism, described by the Israelis as the worst threat 
to their existence.  As a result, a large government conference was 
held in Stockholm, where all major European governments, East and 
West, committed themselves to repress revisionism and promote the 
so-called Jewish Holocaust as the supreme god of modern times.

There  was something funny and even ridiculous to think that all the 
most powerful people of our times were assembled to denounce in 
lyrical terms the painstacking labours of a handful of people coming 
from various countries and stemming from various political 
viewpoints.  We, the handful, counscious of having done our homework, 
waited for the repressive wave to come. It came.

In the US, in Germany, in Switzerland, in Sweden, in France, large 
police operations were mounted to disrupt the circulation of 
Revisionist ideas. Many people were thrown in jail, sometimes for 
years. Trials, persecutions followed, unabated. People were thrown 
out of their jobs.

In the meantime, thanks to the efforts of a tiny number of people, 
Revisionism was introduced in the Middle East.  It ran like a prairie 
fire. The former communist philosopher, once a friend of Stalin, 
Roger Garaudy, now converted to Islam, was heavily fined in Paris for 
a book containing Revisionist arguments. This book was immediately 
translated into Arabic and published in many places. It opened the 
door to the understanding of revisionist arguments. Most media now in 
the Muslim world carry a Revisionist point of view. This, we can 
easily be checked with the translations provided by the Israeli 
military office called «Memri». This explains why the mood in Israel 
is so gloomy.

But, as far as the countries which were once part of the Soviet 
Union, the situation could be described as one of benign passivity. 
Local Zionist organizations in Russia, in Ukraine, in Rumania, have 
obtained new laws punishing «incitement to racial hatred», a 
code-name for everything that displeases the Israeli embassy or the 
local Jewish organizations, heavily founded by US Jewish 
organizations. And of course, they would like us to believe that 
Revisionism - a critical view of some historical events - has 
anything to do with race.

  Some important texts exist. They have been printed and are visible 
on the Internet, in the languages of the former Soviet Union. This is 
certainly not large enough to provide complete understanding of our 
elaborate work.

Kiev, June 3rd, 2005