ZGram - 11/7/2003 - "Dr. Lorraine Day vs. Dr. Edell"

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ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny:  Now more than ever

November 7, 2003

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

I have been waiting for an "eye witness" report from Day Two of the 
Zundel Bail hearings, but so far no one has written it up as yet. 
Also, unlike after previous hearings, I did not see, nor did I get, a 
single media report.  Have you?

Isn't that odd?  Remember how willing the Canadian media always were 
to smear and smear and then smear some more?  Now that there seems to 
have been some kind of optimism about a potentially favorable outcome 
for Ernst - deafening silence!

I did talk to Ernst last night.  He told me that the opposition was 
caught twice in their own lies in that the judge requested to see 
unedited video footage, and Ernst did not say what his enemies 
claimed.  In fact, he said the opposite!  The judge was furious he 
had been so misled!  Lots of squirming, hmming and hawwing. 

The cross examination is now concluded.  A decision about bail is 
supposed to be made in December - almost a year after Ernst was taken 
into custody. What a disgrace for Canada!

According to Ernst, these two days of hearing have given him some 
strategies he did not have before.

While I am waiting for Paul Fromm's report, I am sending you a 
spin-off follow-up from the preceding hearings.  It seems that ABC's 
Dr. Edell saw fit to do a royal smear job on Dr. Lorraine Day, the 
physician I had asked to fly to Toronto and examine Ernst.  She found 
herself promptly under assault in a national ABC broadcast by the 
powers-that-be who manipulate the American people's opinion. 

She herself says:  "Truth telling is always hazardous.  But when it's 
in your blood, there's no way you can stop." 

Let's let our enemies write THAT behind their filthy ears!

(Dr. Day, as an outsider, made a small mistake in thinking that the 
current hearings are Human Rights hearings.  This mistake on her part 
is understandable, since questions in these hearings pertained to a 
previous Human Rights Tribunal ruling  that "truth is not a defense." 
However, the current hearings are bail hearings all mixed up and 
intertwined with government insinuations having led to a security 
certificate that Ernst is a "threat to the security of Canada" and a 
"terrorist"... Some people surely know how to make a lush living 
smearing other people, don't they?)

Here is Dr. Day, speaking her conviction:

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Lorraine Day, M.D.
P.O. Box 8
Thousand Palms, CA  92276

November 3, 2003

Dr. Dean Edell
ABC7/KGO-TV
900 Front Street
San Francisco, CA  94111-1450

Dear Dr. Edell:

Recently, I received in the mail an audiotape of your program that 
aired on October 5, 2003, in which you said many things about me that 
were either untrue, or were attempts to make me guilty by 
association, or were innuendoes carefully crafted to smear my 
reputation.

I realize that you personally know nothing about me nor do you 
personally know anything about Ernst Zundel.  What you said on the 
air obviously was prepared for you by your superiors and handed to 
you with instructions for you to promote what can only be defined as 
outright propaganda.

Briefly, the facts are these.  I was asked by my friend of 13 years, 
Ingrid Rimland Zundel, if I would be willing to fly to Toronto to 
medically examine her husband, Ernst Zundel, who is also a friend of 
mine.  Ernst, a German by birth and a graphic artist by occupation, 
had immigrated to Canada as a young man but had moved to the U.S. two 
years ago when he married Ingrid, a writer and a U.S. citizen.  Ernst 
is 64 years old.

Ernst and Ingrid had been living peacefully in Tennessee for two 
years when on February 5, 2003, while he and a friend were framing 
some of his paintings in anticipation of an exhibition of his work, 
Ernst was arrested by five officers - one sheriff and four 
immigration officers, WITHOUT a warrant, placed in handcuffs, 
forbidden to call his lawyer (his wife was also forbidden to call 
their lawyer) and hauled away without being given any explanation as 
to where he was being taken.  (Who would have thought that could 
happen in America?)

Within two weeks, Ernst was illegally deported to Canada, WITHOUT a 
hearing, and has been in prison, in 23 hour a day lock-down, since 
that time.

His "crime"?  He is accused of missing an immigration interview, 
hardly a "crime" worthy of this type of draconian imprisonment.  The 
truth is that Ernst Zundel DID receive a notice for an immigration 
interview.  His attorney sent a letter to the Immigration Service 
asking that the interview be re-scheduled because he (the attorney) 
was not available on that day, a legitimate request that always had 
been routinely accommodated by the Immigration Service for any lawyer.

No answer was forthcoming from the Immigration Service.  Ernst 
Zundel's attorney then sent a second letter, return receipt 
requested, again stating the need for a re-scheduling of Ernst's 
immigration interview. 

No answer was forthcoming from the Immigration Service.

Months passed and Ernst received nothing from the Immigration Service 
which he did not feel was unusual as they had told him that it would 
take many months for his case to be processed.

Suddenly, on February 5, 2003, the Immigration Officers appeared, 
without warning, to arrest him WITHOUT a warrant.  Obviously, the 
excuse they gave for arresting him has no validity.  It is virtually 
unheard of for anyone in America to be hauled off to PRISON in 
handcuffs because of a missed immigration interview, and then held in 
23 hour-a-day lockdown and branded a "terrorist."

So what is Ernst Zundel's REAL "crime?"

First, you need to know that it is AGAINST THE LAW! in Canada, 
Germany, France, Switzerland and, I believe, Australia and Austria - 
with punishment by imprisonment or fine - to QUESTION the 
establishment's rendition of the "Holocaust!"

In addition, "human rights" tribunals have been set up in Canada 
where a person can be charged with a "human rights" violation - a 
thought crime - and be put on trial without the protections given by 
a court of law, meaning that opponents can testify against him in 
secret and make charges of any type, yet the person "on trial" has no 
right to know who is testifying against him, what the secret 
testimony is about, and the person on trial has no right to cross 
examine the one who is testifying against him.  Therefore, it is 
IMPOSSIBLE for the person on trial to defend himself of the charges - 
since he has no way of knowing what the charges are!

In addition, in these "human rights" tribunals in Canada it has been 
declared that "Truth is NO defense."  In other words, it doesn't 
matter that what the defendant said is TRUE, it only matters that 
someone else doesn't like the defendant revealing the TRUTH!

What a shameful state of affairs for supposedly civilized countries! 
This is just as bad or worse than the most wretched tyrannical 
dictatorship of a third world country.

This should raise a bright red flag to any thinking person, 
especially any thinking American.  WHY would laws be passed to punish 
people for investigating history?  Who would pass such laws?  And 
WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

How Outrageous!  Being imprisoned for investigating history?  And 
this man was essentially kidnapped illegally from his residence in 
the U.S., by U.S. government officials, WITHOUT a warrant, and 
illegally extradited to Canada - - - ALL for the "crime" of 
investigating history and disagreeing with the establishment's 
viewpoint on the "holocaust"!

What did Ernst Zundel find when he investigated the establishment's 
rendition of the "Holocaust?"  He found many things amiss, including 
exaggerated numbers of those supposedly killed in the concentration 
camps, the method by which they died, etc.

So who is behind this reprehensible travesty of justice against Ernst 
Zundel?  Who wants to repress ANYONE who investigates history, 
including the supposed "Holocaust," and ANYONE who disagrees with the 
official party line? 

The answer:  Those who gain the most from perpetuating the 
establishment's version of the "Holocaust," those who have reaped 
billions of dollars in reparations from Germany for the "Holocaust", 
those who collect billions of dollars in "loans" from the U.S. - 
"loans" that are NEVER repaid, those who use those funds to keep 
other groups of people, including the Palestinians, the Iraqis, and 
soon to be many other countries, under totalitarian control and in 
abject poverty. 

Who are these people?  The Zionist Jews!  Notice, I said the 
"Zionist" Jews, NOT Jews in general.  There are many Jews who do NOT 
agree with what the Zionist Jews are doing, but the media, which is 
controlled by the Zionist Jews, rarely allows the opinions of their 
fellow disagreeing Jews to be publicized.

For more information, please investigate www.zundelsite.org or www.rense.com 

Since Ernst Zundel has been in prison, his blood pressure has risen 
so high that he has been in danger of a stroke.  He has been given 
blood pressure medication that is causing adverse side effects. 
Also, he has developed a painful mass on his sternum (breastbone). 

I was asked by his wife, my long-time friend Ingrid Rimland Zundel, 
if I would be willing to fly to Toronto and examine him medically and 
to testify in court regarding his medical condition.

I immediately agreed to do that.

So, in brief, these are the facts.  I was asked, as a physician, to 
examine a friend of mine, a political prisoner who is illegally 
imprisoned, and give a medical opinion in court regarding his medical 
condition.

That seems pretty simple and straight forward to me.  But you, and 
those for whom you work, apparently want to pervert this legitimate 
occurrence, wrap it in numerous innuendoes, entwine my medical 
examination of Ernst with his beliefs and the beliefs of numerous 
others that he may or may not have known, tie it into my recovery 
from cancer by natural methods (what a trick that is!) and make it 
into a piece of propaganda worthy of the Stalinist era of political 
purges.

I am fully aware of the influence that the pharmaceutical companies 
have on the media.    They provide millions of dollars in advertising 
for radio and television.  They certainly do NOT want ANYONE telling 
people how to get well from cancer by natural methods, as I did.  And 
the pharmaceutical companies are owned by those who hold the same 
political mind-set as the media barons, those who own the major 
newspapers, the television studios, the Hollywood movie studios and 
now, the majority of the radio stations.

In your comments about me in your October 5 broadcast, you first try 
to impose "guilt by association" on me, then you launch into a smear 
campaign against Ernst Zundel.  You call Ernst a "hate propagandist," 
a "neo-nazi" and an "anti-semitic," but you give absolutely NO 
evidence for any of these charges.

Then you proceed to smear me by association with Ernst Zundel whom 
you have already smeared without any evidence.

By the way, what does any of this have to do with my getting well 
from cancer?  Or my practice of medicine?  What does this have to do 
with ANYTHING - except to try to destroy my reputation and my 
credibility so YOUR handlers can sell more drugs?

Here is a transcript of what you said, followed by my comments in bold.

	     
"(Dr. Lorraine Day) is a heroine to a lot of you.  She hasn't 
practiced for about ten years."

(L. Day comments: This statement is obviously meant, somehow, to be a 
slur on my reputation.  How do you define "practicing" medicine?  How 
long has it been since YOU have "practiced" medicine?  You give out 
medical information publicly - and so do I.  So what is your point 
with that statement? 

Must a physician see private patients in a private office in order to 
be considered a "practicing" physician?  How about all of the 
physicians in administrative and research positions in Medical 
schools, hospitals and government positions, such as the U.S. Surgeon 
General?  Are they any less a doctor just because they don't see 
patients privately, one on one?  Are YOU less of a doctor because of 
what YOU do?  (If so, then why do YOU  feel qualified to give out 
medical information?)    

"She claimed she cured her breast cancer with prayer and diet and 
that standard medical treatment is not good for you - the standard 
stuff." 

(L.Day comments: You obviously don't have any idea how I got well. 
The plan I used has Ten Steps, all of them are natural.  Diet is only 
one of them.  Trust in God is another.  But there are EIGHT more 
steps that are just as critical for recovery as the two that you 
mentioned.  But you chose to present my recovery in such a way as to 
trivialize it and make it sound absurd.

However, you are certainly CORRECT in saying that I believe "that 
standard medical treatment is not good for you."  I'll embrace that 
statement all day long!)

"Well, here she reveals certain of her colors."

(L. Day comments: What "colors," pray tell, am I revealing, just 
because I medically examine a prisoner?  I have examined hundreds of 
prisoners in my medical career.  Why is that a problem for you?  And 
what does that have to do with my recovery from cancer?  How 
ingeniously you link the two together, even though one has NOTHING to 
do with the other.  I have noticed, in my many encounters with the 
press over the last fifteen years, how cleverly you, and others in 
your position, refuse to deal with the issues and instead, attack the 
individual's reputation with name-calling, just as you have done here 
- as follows!) 

"There's a fellow named Zundel.  Canada is trying to review a 
declaration as a threat to national security and to extradite him to 
Germany.  His wife claims he (Zundel) has used herbs to cure himself 
of inoperable terminal cancer many years ago and he has had a 
recurrence because his detention would not permit him to continue 
taking his herbs. 

(L. Day comments:  What does this have to do with me?  I DIDN'T say 
that!  Why do you gratuitously throw it in here?  Ernst Zundel's wife 
has a right to say what she wants.  How does it have anything to do 
with me?  I DIDN'T say it!)

"This is a guy who basically is a hate propagandist,

(L. Day comments: Oh, PLEASE!  What a worn-out phrase?  Where is your 
proof?  What do you define as a "hate propagandist" - someone who 
says something - ANYTHING - that your employers, the Zionist Jews, 
don't like?)

"is a neo-nazi

(L. Day comments:  AGAIN - Oh, PLEASE!  What is your definition of a 
neo-nazi?  Any German who is tired of the German-bashing constantly 
carried on by the Zionist Jews?)

"and has for many years funded neo-nazi groups,

(L. Day comments: You have not defined "neo-nazi" so your charges of 
funding "neo-nazi" groups are irrelevant and nothing more than smear 
tactics.)

"published neo-nazi and anti-semitic and holocaust denials, books 
such as "The Hitler we loved and why."

(L. Day comments: I personally have NEVER even heard of such a book. 
But, if there is such a book, is freedom of speech only available to 
those who believe EXACTLY as YOU do?

Let's stop right here and define the word "anti-semitic."  Frankly, I 
am sick and tired of this term.  Anti-semitic means those who are 
against (or "hate") people who are of semitic origin.  Arabs are 
semitic.  Ernst doesn't hate Arabs nor does he hate Jews, even though 
Jews CAN'T even generally be classified as semites, as approximately 
80% of them are descended from the Khazars from Khazaria, an area in 
what is now Russia, where "Gentile" barbarians, in the 9th or 10th 
century, purposely adopted Judaism both as a religion and as a 
culture. 

So, 80% of ALL the Jews in the world today are actually Gentiles 
whose ancestors adopted the Jewish culture and/or religion centuries 
ago.) Reference:  Koestler, Arthur (a Jewish author), The Thirteenth 
Tribe, 1976: Random House, Inc., New York.

Since the  Zionist Jews in Israel appear to be hell-bent on 
extermination of the Palestinians, Israeli Zionist Jews must be 
classified as the most anti-semitic people on the face of the earth. 
It's a case of the pot calling the kettle black! 

Ernst Zundel is NOT anti-semitic!  He does not hate Arabs OR Jews. 
He has repeatedly tried to open a dialogue with Jews from various 
organizations, to discuss the issue of the Holocaust.  But his 
enemies respond by burning down his house and sending him bombs 
through the mail - TWICE - to try to kill him.  Why aren't THOSE 
people brought to justice and charged with HATE crimes? 

So the charge of "anti-semitism" is meaningless and is nothing more 
than a smear tactic.  That term, "anti-semitic," is used by Zionist 
Jews to intimidate anyone who exposes their skullduggery.  It is 
nothing more than "bully tactics" and very unbecoming to those who 
use it.  (I do hope you are aware of the many Jews, including Israeli 
Jews, who strongly DISAGREE with the tactics of the Zionists, and the 
many Jews who are very much AGAINST the Zionist Jews' treatment of 
the Palestinians.)

"(Chuckling)  So here's this neo-nazi

(Please see my above comments regarding the childish habit of 
name-calling while you simultaneously refuse to discuss the issues.)

"and who stands up for him in court to defend this guy but Lorraine Day, M.D."

(L. Day comments: I was NOT in court to "defend" Ernst Zundel.  I was 
there, as a physician, to examine him medically and to testify about 
his medical condition.

Do you, Dr. Edell, believe that if a man is imprisoned, whether 
legally or illegally imprisoned, as is the case with Mr. Zundel, the 
prisoner should not be allowed to be examined by a doctor?  Is it 
your contention that human rights should only  extend to those who 
hold opinions that agree with yours and your superiors?)

"He (Zundel) lists her as among the signers of a petition the 
government officials have asserted (which states), 'Mr. Zundel is an 
honest, outspoken man and doesn't deserve to be sent back to Germany 
to face a jail term, merely because he has openly questioned the 
accuracy and veracity of what many claim to have been a historical 
occurrence. 

(L. Day comments:  Yes, indeed, I was willing and anxious to sign the 
petition for Ernst Zundel and I would sign it again and again, if 
need be.  I am PROUD to be a friend of a man who is willing to risk 
imprisonment and risk his very life, to tell TRUTH - to expose the 
lies of those who plan to enslave most of the people of the world. 

I don't know that I believe everything Ernst Zundel believes, because 
I don't KNOW everything that he believes.  But I DO agree with his 
right to investigate the accuracy of the events of history, including 
World War II and what is inappropriately termed the "Holocaust." 

I have long been under the impression that America allows freedom of 
thought and freedom of speech.  Silly me!) 

"Anyway - she's out there." 

(L. Day comments: Whatever that means!  You bet I am!  I am happy to 
be ANYWHERE that TRUTH is being told.  I fervently pray that I NEVER 
shrink from that duty, no matter who tries to destroy my reputation.)

There is one important thing that those of you who attack TRUTH have 
not yet realized, and that is that God brings attention to TRUTH - 
God magnifies TRUTH - by allowing opposition to TRUTH.  In other 
words, the more you and others attack the TRUTH that we are teaching, 
the more the general population will want to investigate this TRUTH.

When you mentioned me on your radio show, there were undoubtedly 
hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of people who had never heard 
of me before.  And YOU brought me to their attention.  You have NO 
idea how creative people become in finding TRUTH once their minds are 
made curious about it.  So many people are sick and they are becoming 
increasingly aware that orthodox medical treatments DON'T WORK!  So 
they hear about me - from YOU - and even though you are trying to 
ruin my reputation and destroy my credibility, they see right through 
you and will not stop until they hear my message!

So, I must say THANK YOU!  I could not afford to buy such widespread 
publicity.  And you're doing it for me for FREE!

You, and others who attack truth would be much smarter to just leave 
us truth-tellers alone, people like Ernst Zundel, Jeff Rense, Robert 
Faurrison, me, and many others.  But you become so obsessed with 
trying to stamp out truth that you cannot leave us alone.  But the 
more you rail against us, the more you inadvertently bring people to 
us - the more you stimulate the curiosity of the millions who want to 
know truth.

Since Ernst Zundel has been wrongfully imprisoned by the enemies of 
TRUTH, the new people who have been attracted to his message and who 
are investigating the TRUTH about the "holocaust" have increased by 
400%!

You see, it's IMPOSSIBLE to stamp out truth.  Truth can never be 
stamped out because it is - Truth! 

Here's an illustration: The woman who gave birth to you is your 
mother.  That is TRUTH!  You could try to deny that fact and claim 
that some other woman was your mother, but the woman who gave birth 
to you is STILL your mother.  No matter how much you shouted other 
people down, no matter how much you might wish your falsehood to be 
true - it is NOT.  No matter how many people you would put in prison 
for telling the TRUTH about who your real mother is, the TRUTH would 
still remain the TRUTH!  The woman who gave birth to you is STILL 
your mother, no matter how much you might try to deny it.  TRUTH can 
NEVER be destroyed.  It will ALWAYS remain TRUTH!

Remember, Gamaliel was right when he spoke to his fellow Pharisees 
who wanted to kill Peter and the other apostles who were preaching 
the truth about Jesus Christ!

"Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, 
a doctor of the law, held in respect among all the people. . . and 
said unto them (his fellow Pharisees),

'You men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do 
regarding these men. . . Keep away from these men, and let them 
alone: for if their counsel or their work be of men, it will come to 
nothing.  But if it is of God, you CANNOT overthrow it; for you will 
find that you are fighting against God!" 
Acts 5:34-39.

Wise words!

Dr. Edell, since you know nothing about me nor how I got well from 
life-threatening cancer by totally natural methods, I am enclosing 
three of my videotapes and my new workbook entitled Getting Started 
on Getting Well, as my gift to you.  Also, you may visit my web site 
at www.drday.com where you will find much life-saving information as 
well as this letter to you, and my responses to my other critics.

Sincerely,



Lorraine Day, M.D.

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