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>- Where Truth is Destiny
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>June 11, 2003
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>Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
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>Today's food for thought comes to you courtesy of former army 
>chaplain, Dr. Robert Countess of Alabama:
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>                                                                      Subject: 
>Are Germans as "screwed up" as are Jews?  An Essay on Gottfried 
>Wagner and the Holocaust Disease, Historical Exactitude, and Ernst 
>Zundel
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>By:          Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
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>Date:       June 9, 2003
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>Recently, I visited the Los Angeles Simon Wiesenthal Center [= SWC] 
>book store and bought, among others, a copy of Gottfried Wagner's 
>Twilight of the Wagners. The Unveiling of a Family's Legacy [New 
>York: Picador USA, 1997. ISBN: 0-312-19957-0].
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>      Gottfried Wagner is a great grandson of operatic composer 
>Richard Wagner [died 1883], but he has become not only an 
>anti-Wagnerian but a rabid pro-Holocaustian philo-Jewish fanatic. 
>His criticisms of "the cult of Wagner" are worthy of serious 
>consideration, I believe, but that is not the purpose of this essay.
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>      It is the Introduction of this book [pages 1-7] by the Jewish 
>academic Abraham Peck that sets the tone and Holocaustian context 
>for this quite fascinating monograph by the April 13, 1947 born 
>Gottfried, now aged 56 and an operatic expert in his own right.
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>      Gottfried was birthed at Bayreuth and took the Ph.D in 
>musicology, philosophy, and Germanistik at the University of Vienna, 
>along with a degree in business at Bocconi University in Milan.  He 
>now works as internationally lecturing in music history and directs 
>stage and video works, and writes in these fields, living in Milan 
>with his wife and son.
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>      Abraham Peck claims to be "a Holocaust survivor" and lives in 
>New Jersey, perhaps associated in some way with Stockton College. 
>For Peck, the Jewish Holocaust Story is a basis for religion and 
>ethics - as similarly preached by  the obsessed fanatic Rabbi 
>Michael Berenbaum and by the similarly obsessed fanatic professor of 
>architectural history, Robert Jan van Pelt.   Peck writes on page 1 
>that we live "in an age dominated by the shadow of Auschwitz".  This 
>self-serving concept of the 1933-2003 era, I suggest, is quite 
>necessary for the continuing success of what Norman Finkelstein 
>calls "the Holocaust Industry" [see his book by that title].
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>      Add to this Peck's arrogant assumption that "Germans" and 
>"Nazis" and Richard Wagner are  the primary sources of Jewish 
>persecution from the 1920s until today and we can grasp that Peck 
>has positioned himself quite centrally in controlling Gottfried 
>Wagner for Holocaustian purposes - which are 1) universal sympathy 
>for and financial reparation to "Jews"; 2) unending support for the 
>[racist] Jewish State of Israel; and 3)  an unquestioning acceptance 
>of Jews as sitting in the seats of moral authority over Gentiles who 
>must agree everywhere and at all times that  "the Holocaust" has 
>rendered Gentiles incapable of making valid moral statements unless 
>Jews agree that the statements are valid.
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>      Peck  met  Gottfried Wagner in 1991 at Stockton College in New 
>Jersey where Wagner had been invited to speak to a "Scholars' 
>Conference on the Church Struggle" and Wagner spoke on Richard 
>Wagner, his music and, of course, "anti-Semitism". Peck 
>distinguished himself by raising the question of how Germans today 
>can show themselves properly respectful to Jews and if  Germans 
>today can ever atone for their role in "the Holocaust".  Peck 
>insists - along with Elie Wiesel and Deborah Lipstadt and Van Pelt 
>et alia - that the "Six Million martyred Jews" cannot be reconciled 
>to Germans unless these Jews, now dead, grant such reconciliation.
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>      Of course, those of us who work with classical logic wherein we 
>move from A to B to C, understand that Peck renders such 
>reconciliation to be an impossibility; hence, the German guilt must 
>continue forever, or as one of my message T-Shirts has it, "No 
>Guilt? No Geld!" [No guilt? No reparations!]   Also, I suggest that 
>for the atheist Peck and most Jews who are similarly atheist, so 
>that there is no ultimate God to bring about reconciliation, this 
>concept Peck is using is quite clever indeed - the guilt and the 
>Geld must continue without any end in sight.  I suggest that the 
>Rothschilds  and Warburgs could never have hit upon such a fine 
>method of profiteering!
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>      I really do like the German word Versoenhnung [= 
>reconciliation] since it is quite a Biblical New Testament term and 
>focuses upon the alienation of a Sohn from his Vater and the need to 
>bring the Son back into the good graces of his Father.  In the NT, 
>the sinner is, if I may coin a term, "re-sonned" - that is, brought 
>from estrangement as sinner back into a loving relationship to God 
>the Father, and all this via the Incarnation, Work, Atoning Death, 
>and Resurrection of the ultimate Son, Jesus Christ.
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>      When Jews assert that Jesus was a Jew, I point out that this is 
>not correct if we employ the current usage of "Jew" with all its 
>controversial ambiguity and Talmudic racism.  The second person of 
>the Trinity became a human being birthed, as it were, by a simple 
>descendant of the children of Abraham--himself being no Jew but a 
>Hebrew; thereupon at the eighth day when the ritual circumcision 
>took place, Jesus became an Israelite in the religious sense, not in 
>some vulgar racist sense as so many Jews today promote this bloody 
>ritual.  Jesus was tribally "a Judean".  In the mid-Sixth century 
>BC, this tribal or southern Kingdom term had been shorted to "Jew" 
>[= Classical Hebrew in transliterated English letters: Jehuwdiy] in 
>the  King James  Bible.  But, today, "Jew" is so vague and racialist 
>or racist in usage by "Jews" themselves that they seem to prefer 
>"Jewish" - that is, the adjectival usage.  I like to compare this 
>preference for ambiguity to a person calling himself "Christian-ish" 
>or "atheist-ish" or "Moslem-ish" or "American-ish".   The absurdity 
>of the -ish  suffix by "Jews" thus becomes clear - they do not want 
>to be any longer JEWS, but rather merely in some ambiguous fashion 
>associated with the traditions of a people who in ambiguous ways 
>trace their lineage in some ambiguous manner to the eponymous 
>ancestor Abraham [whom I said above was not himself "a Jew" and 
>certainly NOT "Jewish"!].
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>      But, back to Peck and Gottfried Wagner.  Gottfried today is so 
>embarrassed and ashamed of his German-ish descent and of his 
>Wagnerian lineage - due to the present Holocaustian dogma - that he 
>goes out of his way to rewrite History.  As such, I suggest that if 
>Gottfried were to read Der Spiegel editor Fritjof Meyer's May 2003 
>article on the gas chamber problem at Birkenau and Meyer's denial of 
>such gas chambers in the Crematorias, Gottfried might be even more 
>ashamed and confused!   Thus, I further suggest that the only way 
>for Gottfried to be reconciled to historical reality is for him to 
>learn that there is no convincing evidence for these "Holy of 
>Holies" [Van Pelt] contraptions at Auschwitz-Birkenau.  Only then 
>could Gottfried become "re-sonned" to historical reality and learn 
>that "Jews" themselves committed enormous crimes against Slavic 
>Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe from 1917 on - crimes much 
>more horrendous than could ever be alleged for the Germans!
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>      Hence, the title of this essay:   "Are Germans as 'screwed up' 
>as Jews."  I submit that Gottfried Wagner is thoroughly "screwed up" 
>in his overall philosophy of life and history and religion and 
>culture.  His criticisms of the "Wagner cult" are such that I can 
>agree with many of them.  This "cult" still has its adherents in 
>Germany among many of the faithful Festspielhaus loyalists every 
>August to September when at Bayreuth in north Bavaria some of the 
>truly magnificent operatic dramas are presented year after year.
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>      There are, to my knowledge, significant numbers of 
>anti-Christians who in their own Goethe-like "pious heathens" 
>fashion are devotees of Teutonic-Aryan religious concepts of Odin 
>and the like.  They would not at all like Gottfried Wagner's 
>criticisms.  But, I shall leave all this to the History of Religions 
>scholars to fight over.
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>      I submit that Abraham Peck and Elie Wiesel and Robert Jan van 
>Pelt and Deborah Lipstadt and the average "Jew" are all "screwed 
>up".   And by "screwed up" I do not draw upon any sexual meaning of 
>the verbal participle here; rather I mean in the sense of the German 
>Holzschraube [a wood screw] that one uses to bore into wood or 
>metal. And this then leads to a state of affairs wherein things are 
>not straightly put together but twisted. 
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>      Gottfried Wagner is thus twisted up and around and under and 
>down and out.  His views of reality have been so twisted by the 
>Holo-dogma that he is emotionally and intellectually unable to put 
>things together straightly as a carpenter must do  in the framing of 
>a house or piece of furniture.
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>      "Jews" such as Peck and Company are even more twisted, even 
>perverse, because they are in the drivers' seats of academia and 
>commerce and government and culture and they twist everything in 
>screw-like fashion down into the twisted hole of "the Holocaust."
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>      So, I conclude that both Germans and "Jews" in general today 
>are likewise "screwed up" and need enlightenment [= Aufklaerung]. 
>And this enlightenment can come from those who employ Exactitude in 
>scientific-historiography, as Professor Robert Faurisson has 
>insisted - that is, getting the data and the interpretation of the 
>data as exact as humanly possible and without inserting politics and 
>formal religion and social correctness.  Exactitude as such is much 
>to be preferred over "Revisionism" since this latter term has become 
>so laden with political reactionism and with pro-Hitlerian 
>sympathies.  I say this despite the historical usage wherein 
>Professor Harry Elmer Barnes and his contemporaries used  revision, 
>revising, and revisionism in ways that were quite acceptable in the 
>1920-1940 or so era.
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>      Exactitude is a method for writing scientific-historiography. 
>Germar Rudolf's Vierteljahreshelfte fuer freie Geschichtsforschung 
>and his The Revisionist are two current journals that attempt - not 
>perfectly, of course - to conform to the method of Exactitude.  And 
>these journals are open to revising, even invite revising, by their 
>Editor Germar Rudolf and his contributing authors.
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>      Where does - one properly asks - Ernst Zundel fit into all 
>this?  Is he also a "screwed up" German?
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>      Perhaps the simplest answer is that he is clearly not "screwed 
>up" because he presently languishes in a Canadian prison and 
>continues to be persecuted and prosecuted by "Jews" and the 
>Gottfried Wagner anti-German types.   Ernst Zundel has made 
>statements in my presence or in writing that are clearly critical of 
>many things German of the past and during the Hitlerian era.  [Last 
>week I read the New Order (neo-Nazi organization of the USA in 
>Milwaukee, Wisconsin) literature that a true follower of Hitler does 
>not criticize "the Fuehrer."  Therefore, Ernst Zundel is clearly not 
>a neo-Nazi since I have heard him make critical statements about 
>Hitler's policies.  At the same time, in the immigration hearing 
>room at Niagara Falls, Ontario last March 31st, I heard Zundel refer 
>to Hitler as "the Great One."   And, if one understands Zundel over 
>the years, one can place this appellation in the context of Hitler's 
>leadership of 1933 Germany wracked by economic and political woes 
>and Communist revolutionary violence and Jewish intrigues to 
>introduce Bolshevism throughout the nation.  Zundel does what every 
>historian ought to be doing - that is, try to offer a balanced 
>assessment of a national leader's leadership. Hitler, for most part, 
>is today so demonized that students acquire nothing of his positive 
>accomplishments, being propagandized only into his holocausting of 
>"the Jews".  Zundel offers his own - not my own - interpretation of 
>the National Socialist era and his interpretation is open to 
>Exactitude revising.  Any one of  [us] can sit down with Ernst and 
>discuss rationally his views and have a completely exchange of 
>points and counterpoints and do so in a warm, friendly atmosphere - 
>quite unlike the atmosphere surrounding the average Holocaustian's 
>dogmatic insistence that it's ìthe sacred Six Million - his  way or 
>no  way!
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>     Editor Fritjof Meyer of  Der Spiegel certainly has it wrong when 
>it comes to Exactitude for homicidal gassings in the two little 
>cottages outside the Birkenau perimeter, but he did get it right 
>when he denied gassings in the crematorias.  At least Meyer is 
>moving in the right direction - willing to revise the accepted dogma 
>that paralyzes the German people and their parliamentary republic, a 
>dogma that totally paralyzes Richard Wagner's great grandson 
>Gottfried, and a dogma that energizes perennially the Abraham Peck 
>and his ilk for ill-gotten gain.
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>      How much longer will the Holo-dogmatists continue their 
>dominance of World War Two historiography? How much longer will 
>Ernst Zundel remain in prison and hounded by the evil Canadians such 
>as Edgar Bronfman and Sabina Citron and Bernie Farber and the 
>Canadian Jewish organizations who bribe and threaten Goy 
>politicians? How long?
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>      Until capable Germans like Gottfried Wagner, a man who at 
>bottom no doubt means well, learn the truth about World War Two. 
>June 22 is almost upon us and with it the 52nd anniversary of 
>Operation Barbarossa, the German attack on Stalin's Soviet Union as 
>it was positioned to invade Germany and subjugate all Europe under 
>the atheistic, totalitarian, Judeo-Bolshevist heel of extermination. 
>Stalin and his designs were totally evil; Hitler and his designs for 
>eastward expansion were totally self-serving for German colonialism 
>and brutally contextualized. There are comparisons and contrasts, to 
>be sure. But then there are comparisons and contrasts for National 
>Socialism and German colonialist empire building with the French and 
>the British and the Dutch and - if we can bear to admit the truth! - 
>the Americans.
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>      Perhaps we Americans are "screwed up" also.
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>Robert H. Countess, PhD
>boblbpinc at earthlink.net
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