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>June 11, 2003
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>Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
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>Today's food for thought comes to you courtesy of former army
>chaplain, Dr. Robert Countess of Alabama:
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> Subject:
>Are Germans as "screwed up" as are Jews? An Essay on Gottfried
>Wagner and the Holocaust Disease, Historical Exactitude, and Ernst
>Zundel
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>By: Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
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>Date: June 9, 2003
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>Recently, I visited the Los Angeles Simon Wiesenthal Center [= SWC]
>book store and bought, among others, a copy of Gottfried Wagner's
>Twilight of the Wagners. The Unveiling of a Family's Legacy [New
>York: Picador USA, 1997. ISBN: 0-312-19957-0].
>
> Gottfried Wagner is a great grandson of operatic composer
>Richard Wagner [died 1883], but he has become not only an
>anti-Wagnerian but a rabid pro-Holocaustian philo-Jewish fanatic.
>His criticisms of "the cult of Wagner" are worthy of serious
>consideration, I believe, but that is not the purpose of this essay.
>
> It is the Introduction of this book [pages 1-7] by the Jewish
>academic Abraham Peck that sets the tone and Holocaustian context
>for this quite fascinating monograph by the April 13, 1947 born
>Gottfried, now aged 56 and an operatic expert in his own right.
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> Gottfried was birthed at Bayreuth and took the Ph.D in
>musicology, philosophy, and Germanistik at the University of Vienna,
>along with a degree in business at Bocconi University in Milan. He
>now works as internationally lecturing in music history and directs
>stage and video works, and writes in these fields, living in Milan
>with his wife and son.
>
> Abraham Peck claims to be "a Holocaust survivor" and lives in
>New Jersey, perhaps associated in some way with Stockton College.
>For Peck, the Jewish Holocaust Story is a basis for religion and
>ethics - as similarly preached by the obsessed fanatic Rabbi
>Michael Berenbaum and by the similarly obsessed fanatic professor of
>architectural history, Robert Jan van Pelt. Peck writes on page 1
>that we live "in an age dominated by the shadow of Auschwitz". This
>self-serving concept of the 1933-2003 era, I suggest, is quite
>necessary for the continuing success of what Norman Finkelstein
>calls "the Holocaust Industry" [see his book by that title].
>
> Add to this Peck's arrogant assumption that "Germans" and
>"Nazis" and Richard Wagner are the primary sources of Jewish
>persecution from the 1920s until today and we can grasp that Peck
>has positioned himself quite centrally in controlling Gottfried
>Wagner for Holocaustian purposes - which are 1) universal sympathy
>for and financial reparation to "Jews"; 2) unending support for the
>[racist] Jewish State of Israel; and 3) an unquestioning acceptance
>of Jews as sitting in the seats of moral authority over Gentiles who
>must agree everywhere and at all times that "the Holocaust" has
>rendered Gentiles incapable of making valid moral statements unless
>Jews agree that the statements are valid.
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> Peck met Gottfried Wagner in 1991 at Stockton College in New
>Jersey where Wagner had been invited to speak to a "Scholars'
>Conference on the Church Struggle" and Wagner spoke on Richard
>Wagner, his music and, of course, "anti-Semitism". Peck
>distinguished himself by raising the question of how Germans today
>can show themselves properly respectful to Jews and if Germans
>today can ever atone for their role in "the Holocaust". Peck
>insists - along with Elie Wiesel and Deborah Lipstadt and Van Pelt
>et alia - that the "Six Million martyred Jews" cannot be reconciled
>to Germans unless these Jews, now dead, grant such reconciliation.
>
> Of course, those of us who work with classical logic wherein we
>move from A to B to C, understand that Peck renders such
>reconciliation to be an impossibility; hence, the German guilt must
>continue forever, or as one of my message T-Shirts has it, "No
>Guilt? No Geld!" [No guilt? No reparations!] Also, I suggest that
>for the atheist Peck and most Jews who are similarly atheist, so
>that there is no ultimate God to bring about reconciliation, this
>concept Peck is using is quite clever indeed - the guilt and the
>Geld must continue without any end in sight. I suggest that the
>Rothschilds and Warburgs could never have hit upon such a fine
>method of profiteering!
>
> I really do like the German word Versoenhnung [=
>reconciliation] since it is quite a Biblical New Testament term and
>focuses upon the alienation of a Sohn from his Vater and the need to
>bring the Son back into the good graces of his Father. In the NT,
>the sinner is, if I may coin a term, "re-sonned" - that is, brought
>from estrangement as sinner back into a loving relationship to God
>the Father, and all this via the Incarnation, Work, Atoning Death,
>and Resurrection of the ultimate Son, Jesus Christ.
>
> When Jews assert that Jesus was a Jew, I point out that this is
>not correct if we employ the current usage of "Jew" with all its
>controversial ambiguity and Talmudic racism. The second person of
>the Trinity became a human being birthed, as it were, by a simple
>descendant of the children of Abraham--himself being no Jew but a
>Hebrew; thereupon at the eighth day when the ritual circumcision
>took place, Jesus became an Israelite in the religious sense, not in
>some vulgar racist sense as so many Jews today promote this bloody
>ritual. Jesus was tribally "a Judean". In the mid-Sixth century
>BC, this tribal or southern Kingdom term had been shorted to "Jew"
>[= Classical Hebrew in transliterated English letters: Jehuwdiy] in
>the King James Bible. But, today, "Jew" is so vague and racialist
>or racist in usage by "Jews" themselves that they seem to prefer
>"Jewish" - that is, the adjectival usage. I like to compare this
>preference for ambiguity to a person calling himself "Christian-ish"
>or "atheist-ish" or "Moslem-ish" or "American-ish". The absurdity
>of the -ish suffix by "Jews" thus becomes clear - they do not want
>to be any longer JEWS, but rather merely in some ambiguous fashion
>associated with the traditions of a people who in ambiguous ways
>trace their lineage in some ambiguous manner to the eponymous
>ancestor Abraham [whom I said above was not himself "a Jew" and
>certainly NOT "Jewish"!].
>
> But, back to Peck and Gottfried Wagner. Gottfried today is so
>embarrassed and ashamed of his German-ish descent and of his
>Wagnerian lineage - due to the present Holocaustian dogma - that he
>goes out of his way to rewrite History. As such, I suggest that if
>Gottfried were to read Der Spiegel editor Fritjof Meyer's May 2003
>article on the gas chamber problem at Birkenau and Meyer's denial of
>such gas chambers in the Crematorias, Gottfried might be even more
>ashamed and confused! Thus, I further suggest that the only way
>for Gottfried to be reconciled to historical reality is for him to
>learn that there is no convincing evidence for these "Holy of
>Holies" [Van Pelt] contraptions at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Only then
>could Gottfried become "re-sonned" to historical reality and learn
>that "Jews" themselves committed enormous crimes against Slavic
>Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe from 1917 on - crimes much
>more horrendous than could ever be alleged for the Germans!
>
> Hence, the title of this essay: "Are Germans as 'screwed up'
>as Jews." I submit that Gottfried Wagner is thoroughly "screwed up"
>in his overall philosophy of life and history and religion and
>culture. His criticisms of the "Wagner cult" are such that I can
>agree with many of them. This "cult" still has its adherents in
>Germany among many of the faithful Festspielhaus loyalists every
>August to September when at Bayreuth in north Bavaria some of the
>truly magnificent operatic dramas are presented year after year.
>
> There are, to my knowledge, significant numbers of
>anti-Christians who in their own Goethe-like "pious heathens"
>fashion are devotees of Teutonic-Aryan religious concepts of Odin
>and the like. They would not at all like Gottfried Wagner's
>criticisms. But, I shall leave all this to the History of Religions
>scholars to fight over.
>
> I submit that Abraham Peck and Elie Wiesel and Robert Jan van
>Pelt and Deborah Lipstadt and the average "Jew" are all "screwed
>up". And by "screwed up" I do not draw upon any sexual meaning of
>the verbal participle here; rather I mean in the sense of the German
>Holzschraube [a wood screw] that one uses to bore into wood or
>metal. And this then leads to a state of affairs wherein things are
>not straightly put together but twisted.
>
> Gottfried Wagner is thus twisted up and around and under and
>down and out. His views of reality have been so twisted by the
>Holo-dogma that he is emotionally and intellectually unable to put
>things together straightly as a carpenter must do in the framing of
>a house or piece of furniture.
>
> "Jews" such as Peck and Company are even more twisted, even
>perverse, because they are in the drivers' seats of academia and
>commerce and government and culture and they twist everything in
>screw-like fashion down into the twisted hole of "the Holocaust."
>
> So, I conclude that both Germans and "Jews" in general today
>are likewise "screwed up" and need enlightenment [= Aufklaerung].
>And this enlightenment can come from those who employ Exactitude in
>scientific-historiography, as Professor Robert Faurisson has
>insisted - that is, getting the data and the interpretation of the
>data as exact as humanly possible and without inserting politics and
>formal religion and social correctness. Exactitude as such is much
>to be preferred over "Revisionism" since this latter term has become
>so laden with political reactionism and with pro-Hitlerian
>sympathies. I say this despite the historical usage wherein
>Professor Harry Elmer Barnes and his contemporaries used revision,
>revising, and revisionism in ways that were quite acceptable in the
>1920-1940 or so era.
>
> Exactitude is a method for writing scientific-historiography.
>Germar Rudolf's Vierteljahreshelfte fuer freie Geschichtsforschung
>and his The Revisionist are two current journals that attempt - not
>perfectly, of course - to conform to the method of Exactitude. And
>these journals are open to revising, even invite revising, by their
>Editor Germar Rudolf and his contributing authors.
>
> Where does - one properly asks - Ernst Zundel fit into all
>this? Is he also a "screwed up" German?
>
> Perhaps the simplest answer is that he is clearly not "screwed
>up" because he presently languishes in a Canadian prison and
>continues to be persecuted and prosecuted by "Jews" and the
>Gottfried Wagner anti-German types. Ernst Zundel has made
>statements in my presence or in writing that are clearly critical of
>many things German of the past and during the Hitlerian era. [Last
>week I read the New Order (neo-Nazi organization of the USA in
>Milwaukee, Wisconsin) literature that a true follower of Hitler does
>not criticize "the Fuehrer." Therefore, Ernst Zundel is clearly not
>a neo-Nazi since I have heard him make critical statements about
>Hitler's policies. At the same time, in the immigration hearing
>room at Niagara Falls, Ontario last March 31st, I heard Zundel refer
>to Hitler as "the Great One." And, if one understands Zundel over
>the years, one can place this appellation in the context of Hitler's
>leadership of 1933 Germany wracked by economic and political woes
>and Communist revolutionary violence and Jewish intrigues to
>introduce Bolshevism throughout the nation. Zundel does what every
>historian ought to be doing - that is, try to offer a balanced
>assessment of a national leader's leadership. Hitler, for most part,
>is today so demonized that students acquire nothing of his positive
>accomplishments, being propagandized only into his holocausting of
>"the Jews". Zundel offers his own - not my own - interpretation of
>the National Socialist era and his interpretation is open to
>Exactitude revising. Any one of [us] can sit down with Ernst and
>discuss rationally his views and have a completely exchange of
>points and counterpoints and do so in a warm, friendly atmosphere -
>quite unlike the atmosphere surrounding the average Holocaustian's
>dogmatic insistence that it's ìthe sacred Six Million - his way or
>no way!
>
> Editor Fritjof Meyer of Der Spiegel certainly has it wrong when
>it comes to Exactitude for homicidal gassings in the two little
>cottages outside the Birkenau perimeter, but he did get it right
>when he denied gassings in the crematorias. At least Meyer is
>moving in the right direction - willing to revise the accepted dogma
>that paralyzes the German people and their parliamentary republic, a
>dogma that totally paralyzes Richard Wagner's great grandson
>Gottfried, and a dogma that energizes perennially the Abraham Peck
>and his ilk for ill-gotten gain.
>
> How much longer will the Holo-dogmatists continue their
>dominance of World War Two historiography? How much longer will
>Ernst Zundel remain in prison and hounded by the evil Canadians such
>as Edgar Bronfman and Sabina Citron and Bernie Farber and the
>Canadian Jewish organizations who bribe and threaten Goy
>politicians? How long?
>
> Until capable Germans like Gottfried Wagner, a man who at
>bottom no doubt means well, learn the truth about World War Two.
>June 22 is almost upon us and with it the 52nd anniversary of
>Operation Barbarossa, the German attack on Stalin's Soviet Union as
>it was positioned to invade Germany and subjugate all Europe under
>the atheistic, totalitarian, Judeo-Bolshevist heel of extermination.
>Stalin and his designs were totally evil; Hitler and his designs for
>eastward expansion were totally self-serving for German colonialism
>and brutally contextualized. There are comparisons and contrasts, to
>be sure. But then there are comparisons and contrasts for National
>Socialism and German colonialist empire building with the French and
>the British and the Dutch and - if we can bear to admit the truth! -
>the Americans.
>
> Perhaps we Americans are "screwed up" also.
>
>Robert H. Countess, PhD
>boblbpinc at earthlink.net
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