ZGram - 5/3/2002 - "Giwer: Facts regarding 9/11"
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>ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny
>
>May 3, 2002
>
>Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
>
>It is once again my pleasure to bring you Matt Giwer's keen
>observations and outspoken opinions on current events. Matt is a
>cyber fixture, known as the terror of the Nizkorites. (Private
>in-joke, folks, out of the early cyber wars.)
>
>And speaking of terror...real terror:
>
>[START]
>
>Facts regarding 9/11
>
>by Matt Giwer, © 2002 [May 3]
>
>Flying planes into buildings as a terrorist weapon has been a topic
>of casual conversation among government workers in Washington, DC
>since the 1970s.
>
>There is no defense but to shoot them down if there is time. They
>will fall on someone.
>
>A private plane flew into the White House in 1992. It could have
>been loaded with explosives. A commercial airliner leaving Ronald
>Reagan National Airport in Virginia can nose over into the White
>House, Congress, or the Pentagon within seconds of leaving the ground.
>
>That there will be a next attack using the same means is
>unavoidable. It had absolutely nothing to do with hating US
>democracy or freedom.
>
>Bush had to blame it on something other than the obvious, but we are
>not required to believe it or pretend it is true - nor to accept
>even he or anyone else in the government believes it is true. There
>is no reason to treat the idea like Santa Claus pretending it is
>true for some greater good. There is no greater good than the truth.
>
>The US has been meddling in the Mideast since the 1930s creating and
>preserving dictatorships and overthrowing those it considered
>unfriendly. Much of the "backwardness" of the Mideast has been
>directly due to this meddling, including suppressing democractic
>movements.
>
>Professional Jewish organizations are frightened of nothing more
>than Israel being addressed as one of the reasons. The US has been
>the primary and at times the only supporter of Israel. Israel is but
>one of many US intrusions in the region.
>
>Plane hijacking was started by Castro Cubans. It was later adopted
>by Palestinians fighting Israel. Israel's airline has been a primary
>target for hijackings. We are not involved in any clash of
>civilizations nor of religions.
>
>Were that a legitimate premise, there would be greater conflicts
>with China and India.
>
>We were attacked by a group of civilians and in return attacked a
>nation. We chose to consider it a military act rather than a
>criminal act.
>
>Afghanistan stood for justice when it said it would need to see the
>evidence before turning over Osama bin Laden. The US still has no
>idea as to the names of at least nine of the hijackers.
>
>The people identified by the US have been found alive or are known
>to have died years ago.
>Not one hijacker's name is on any of the passenger manifests.
>
>We, the public, still have no evidence as to who was behind it.
>
>What has been released is far from compelling. No one who speaks
>Arabic agrees with the US translation, including translators used by
>Germany. It is not surprising Arabs do not accept the US translation.
>
>The US started planning the attack on Afghanistan three months
>before 9/11. It was convenient of Al Qaeda to provide an excuse.
>
>There is zero evidence of any involvement of Iraq, yet the US
>intends to attack. It may take another excuse.
>
>The government has admitted it has absolutely no evidence
>implicating Bin Laden or Al Quaeda. They are clearly looking in the
>wrong place. They have a false theory of the crime.
>
>Israel is not above masterminding the attack.
>
>Israel has attacked US assets with bombs and attempted to blame it
>on Arabs. Search google on the Lavon Affair.
>
>Israel has attacked US ships with its military. Read about
><http://www.ussliberty.org>the USS Liberty.
>
>An Israeli company received warning of the attack two hours before it occured.
>
>Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported after 9/11.
>
>Israel has spied on the US since it came into existence, and
>zionists spied before that.
>
>Israel set up Libya to give the US under Reagan an excuse to attack it.
>
>The anthrax attack was of domestic origin and planned to look like
>Arabs were involved.
>
>Israel's first response to the attack was along the lines of it
>being "a good thing" while Arafat condemned it immediately.
>
>There is more indication of Israeli involvement than of Al Quaeda-
>regardless of who was behind it.
>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000">ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny<br>
<br>
May 3, 2002<br>
<br>
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000">It is once again my pleasure to bring you Matt Giwer's
keen observations and outspoken opinions on current events. Matt
is a cyber fixture, known as the terror of the Nizkorites.
(Private in-joke, folks, out of the early cyber
wars.)</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000"><br>
And speaking of terror...real terror:</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000">[START]</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000"><br>
Facts regarding 9/11<br>
<br>
by Matt Giwer, © 2002 [May 3]<br>
<br>
Flying planes into buildings as a terrorist weapon has been a topic of
casual conversation among government workers in Washington, DC since
the 1970s.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
There is no defense but to shoot them down if there is time. They will
fall on someone.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000">A private plane flew into the White House in 1992. It
could have been loaded with explosives. A commercial airliner leaving
Ronald Reagan National Airport in Virginia can nose over into the
White House, Congress, or the Pentagon within seconds of leaving the
ground.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000">That there will be a next attack using the same means
is unavoidable.<x-tab> </x-tab>It had absolutely nothing
to do with hating US democracy or freedom.<x-tab>
</x-tab></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000"><x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
Bush had to blame it on something other than the obvious, but we are
not required to believe it or pretend it is true - nor to accept even
he or anyone else in the government believes it is true. There is no
reason to treat the idea like Santa Claus pretending it is true for
some greater good. There is no greater good than the truth.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<br>
The US has been meddling in the Mideast since the 1930s creating and
preserving dictatorships and overthrowing those it considered
unfriendly. Much of the "backwardness" of the Mideast has
been directly due to this meddling, including suppressing democractic
movements.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Professional Jewish organizations are frightened of nothing more than
Israel being addressed as one of the reasons. The US has been the
primary and at times the only supporter of Israel. Israel is but one
of many US intrusions in the
region.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Plane hijacking was started by Castro Cubans. It was later
adopted by Palestinians fighting Israel. Israel's airline has been a
primary target for hijackings. We are not involved in any clash of
civilizations nor of religions.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
Were that a legitimate premise, there would be greater conflicts with
China and India.<br>
<br>
We were attacked by a group of civilians and in return attacked a
nation. We chose to consider it a military act rather than a criminal
act.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Afghanistan stood for justice when it said it would need to see the
evidence before turning over Osama bin
Laden.<x-tab> </x-tab>The US still
has no idea as to the names of at least nine of the
hijackers.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
The people identified by the US have been found alive or are known to
have died years ago.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
Not one hijacker's name is on any of the passenger
manifests.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
We, the public, still have no evidence as to who was behind it.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
What has been released is far from compelling. No one who speaks
Arabic agrees with the US translation, including translators used by
Germany. It is not surprising Arabs do not accept the US
translation.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
The US started planning the attack on Afghanistan three months before
9/11. It was convenient of Al Qaeda to provide an excuse.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<br>
There is zero evidence of any involvement of Iraq, yet the US intends
to attack. It may take another excuse.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<br>
The government has admitted it has absolutely no evidence implicating
Bin Laden or Al Quaeda. They are clearly looking in the wrong place.
They have a false theory of the crime.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
Israel is not above masterminding the attack.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
Israel has attacked US assets with bombs and attempted to blame it on
Arabs. Search google on the Lavon Affair.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Israel has attacked US ships with its military. Read about
<http://www.ussliberty.org>the USS Liberty.<x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
<br>
An Israeli company received warning of the attack two hours before it
occured.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported after
9/11.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
Israel has spied on the US since it came into existence, and zionists
spied before that.</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Geneva" size="-1"
color="#000000"> <x-tab>
</x-tab><br>
Israel set up Libya to give the US under Reagan an excuse to attack
it.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
The anthrax attack was of domestic origin and planned to look like
Arabs were involved.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
Israel's first response to the attack was along the lines of it being
"a good thing" while Arafat condemned it
immediately.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
There is more indication of Israeli involvement than of Al Quaeda-
regardless of who was behind it.<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<br>
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