ZGram - 12/1/2002 - "Aryan UFOs & Antarctic Bases"

ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny

December 1, 2002

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

I feel decidedly extravagant today!

Below you will see a new Russian twist to an old, yet still 
intriguing story.  I am going to first run the article itself, 
followed by a rather lengthy and detailed comment by Ernst Zundel.

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Aryan UFOs & Antarctic Bases

Pravda.ru

=46rom Nastoyashchy Saratov (newspaper )

Translated by Maria Gousseva

11-30-2

Much has been said about the "UFO" developments of the Third Reich; 
however, some important questions still remain. Were the Germans 
actually successful with these developments or not? According to some 
sources, an UFO crashed near the city of Freiburg in 1936. The UFO 
was found, and it's likely that German scientists with the assistance 
of Schutzstaffel (SS) managed to repair and even test the UFO's 
energy system and propulsion systems.
 
However, all attempts to reproduce the alien technology failed. That 
is why there was only one variant of the flying apparatus. 
Representatives of three occult societies, "Tule," Vril," and 
"Ahnenerbe," ran those projects.
 
=46or five years, the Germans carried out work for the creation of a 
secret project code-named "Base-211," This has been determined by 
several independent experts. By the end of WWII, the Germans already 
had nine scientific enterprises where "flying disk" projects were 
tested. Many scientists are positive that at least one of these Third 
Reich enterprises was transferred to the Antarctic.
 
=46amous researchers of the Third Reich's Antarctic mysteries, R. 
Vesko, V. Terziysky, and D. Childress, claim that from 1942, 
thousands of concentration camp prisoners, prominent scientists, 
pilots, politicians with their families, and members of the 
Hitlerjugend were taken to the South Pole via submarine. Some 
scientists believe that a German base still remains in the Antarctic. 
Moreover, it is even said that there is an underground Aryan city 
called New Berlin, which has a population of two million people.
 
It is claimed that population of this city researches genetic 
engineering and space technology. UFOs have been witnessed several 
times near the South Pole, which is an indirect confirmation of the 
base's existence there. In 1976, with the help of the latest 
technology, the Japanese managed to detect nineteen round objects at 
the same time; the objects dived from space to the Antarctic and 
disappeared from the radar screens.
 
In 1927, an expedition of the famous English archeologist Albert 
Mitchell-Hedges discovered crystal skulls in Central America. The 
clearing of the ancient Mayan city in the tropical jungles of the 
Yucatan peninsula (it's today's Belize) in 1924 preceded the 
discovery.
 
It was decided to burn down thirty three hectares of forests that 
covered the ancient buildings. When the smoke finally lifted, the 
expedition saw an unbelievable scene: stone ruins of a pyramid, of 
the city walls, and an enormous amphitheater that could hold up to 
several thousands spectators. During the excavation of the ruins, 
Mitchell-Hedges discovered the crystal skulls. His find became the 
most mysterious discovery of the 20th century.
 
The skulls were brought to a Brazilian museum. In 1943, after an 
attempt to liberate the skulls, German "Ahnenerbe" agents were 
detained. during their interrogation, the agents confessed that they 
had been sent to South America with the special task of finding "the 
crystal skulls of the Goddess of Death." Several more groups were 
sent there with the same task. Although the majority of them were 
detained, it is not ruled out some of the agents were successful.
 
The seizing of the rare discoveries was directed by Karl Maria 
Willigut, a black magician with a large influence on high-ranking 
Nazi officials. He evinced particular interest in the magic methods 
used by the Altantis pagan priests. The nazis hoped that those 
knowledge of "the progenitrix of the Aryan race" would help them 
create the superman.
 
Today, some investigators suggest that the discovered crystal sculls 
were made in Atlantis and were saved by a miracle. If this is so, 
then it is clear why SS was so interested in the skulls.
 
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/29/40124.html

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Ernst Zundel replies:

I consider this a garbled account about the Third Reich's best-kept 
secret weapons research and development:  Circular flying craft, 
commonly called UFOs.  The article gives one an insight into the 
state of the mind of at least a segment of the Russian reading 
public, when one sees newspaper stories of this type, which mix pure 
speculation, propaganda tales of World War II and weird, far-fetched 
occult themes with the serious side of cutting edge technology. 
=1FThere is also the usual misspelling of names, incomplete titles 
etc., and one wonders what original sources the authors consulted for 
this rather incredible tale.

Nonetheless, the goofy essay merits comment.

I believe I can claim at least some familiarity with the UFO topic, 
having authored and published some small booklets on Nazi UFOs in the 
late '60s and early '70s - before I was forced by Germany's enemies 
to tackle the hoary and fraudulent "Holocaust" claims , which put an 
end to my youthful fascination and explorations of the esoteric. 
This political derailing of my life caused me to become a serious 
activist and made me dedicate my life to the clearing of my people's 
and country's reputation by debunking an untrue accusation.    Had my 
enemies left me alone, who knows what flights of fancy might I have 
endulged in instead?  :)

Seriously:  I personally corresponded with and interviewed some of 
the German UFO researchers in the 1960s still alive then, including 
Rudolf Lusar, post-war Germany's most famous author on German secret 
weapons in World War II.  Nobody ever told me about a secret project 
code-named "Base 211", although some, who were aircraft engineers - 
one attached to Hermann Goering's Reichs-Luftfahrtministerium, was 
personally present when one of those circular crafts, being tethered 
to a concrete floor of a large aircraft hangar and propulsion-tested 
in Wiener Neustadt, Austria, broke its moorings and shot through the 
ceiling, damaging it and the aircraft severely.  I can say with 
certainty that advanced research, production and flight testing were 
definitely going on during World War II of these circular flying 
craft, some which could reach incredible heights very quickly and 
obtain high speeds in horizontal flight - well in excess of the speed 
of sound.

Some of the sanest descriptions of German secret weapons can be found 
in the bestselling books of Lusar, who was an aircraft engineer and 
whose books went through several printings in the 1950s and 1960s. 
The German title was  "Deutsche Geheimwaffen des II. Weltkrieges und 
ihre Weiterentwicklung."  (German Secret Weapons And Their Continuing 
Development)  At least one English translation was published in 
London at the time.

In a similar vein, the American Air Force's Air Technical 
Intelligence Chief, a general named Simon, published a hardcover book 
about Nazi Secret Weapons he and his team had inspected and tested in 
the 1960s with a small publishing house called WE Inc., based in 
Connecticut.  It is full of astonishing photos and rich in technical 
details.  When I spoke to the publisher, who had ordered some of the 
UFO books published by me, he said:  "Very interesting, Z=FCndel, but 
you have only scratched the surface!"

One more very interesting source was a mass-circulation book 
published in England and America, titled "Intercept But Don't Shoot!" 
by Renato Vesco, who is alleged to have been Benito Mussolini's Air 
Technical Intelligence Chief during World War II.  Vesco lists an 
incredible number of sources, among them whole sets of declassified 
British intelligence and engineering assessments of German research 
projects, including weird alloys, completely new metals and Rube 
Goldberg-like contraptions, all tried and tested by the Germans.  In 
the 1970s, it was obtainable from the Queen's Printer in London.

As to German Antarctic explorations - there was at least one publicly 
known German Antarctic expedition undertaken by the Third Reich in 
1938 before the war broke out.  The documentation is replete with 
lots of maps, flying courses, black-and-white photographs and even a 
color photo section.  The title is "Die deutsche antarktische 
Expedition 1938", published by the Safari Verlag.  The book itself is 
long out of print - at least since 1945.  However, the negatives of 
the aereal photos taken by the expedition and some newsreel film 
footage  survived World War II and can be seen at Hamburg's famous 
Hydrographic Institute.

=1FThe serious British publisher, W.R.D. McLaughlin, published a book 
after the war called German Antarctic Raiders, which is about German 
naval activity in the Antarctic in World War II.

In the 1970s, a film documentary appeared about the German Antarctica 
expedition on prime time German TV, which included filmed interviews 
of some of the actual participants of that expedition.  This 
expedition team surveyed and mapped large areas and took soil, water 
and ice samples.  It charted the antarctic waters and air currents. 
It left behind hundreds of Swastika flags driven into the antarctic 
snow and more hundreds of flags air-dropped to lay proper explorers' 
rights of possession to that terrain.  All of this is documented in 
the above mentioned book.  This expedition claimed officially  for 
Germany a clearly defined geographic area of the Antarctic Continent 
and named warm water lakes and mountain ranges they discovered you 
can read about and find on any map put out by the National Geographic 
Society, for instance.  This claim is presently recorded in the 
Antarctica Gazetteer  No. 14, available from the United States Board 
on Geographic Names.  There even exists a German Antarctic Foundation 
which, through its various chapters around the world, keeps alive 
Germany's rightful claim to the area, known as Neu-Schwabenland - and 
trust me, I had nothing to do with the selection of that name, even 
though I am a proud, full-blooded Swabian.  I was born in 1939!

=1FThus, Germany is far larger than the chopped-up, politically 
truncated, demonically maligned little piece of real estate in the 
very heart of Europe the Allies left behind after their defeat of 
Hitler. Germany's Antarctic claim, never challenged, is three times 
the size of pre-World War II Germany.  Many of its highest, Alp-like 
mountains as well as lakes and glaciers are named after those wicked 
Nazi crew and expedition members.  Horrors!

In the 1990s I interviewed an American publisher and author from 
=46lorida who publishes a magazine, called Sharkhunters, devoted 
largely to WWII submarines with lots of famous U-Boat aces as 
contributors.  He told a fascinating story, which I broadcast on my 
satellite show, The Voice of Freedom.  He claims that he had, indeed, 
come across maps and photographs of German Antarctic bases in World 
War II in the Chilean and Argentinian naval archives, one based in 
Tierra del Fuego, accommodating approximately 8,000 men.

One Japanese national TV program invited me to Princeton University 
in the middle 1990s  where I was interviewed for hours and where some 
of my unpublished material was filmed.  This television program was 
then enhanced with computer-generated, brilliantly done Nazi flying 
saucers, being shielded by icebergs at first, gracefully rising out 
from Antarctic ocean bases and glaciers.  They are some sight to see 
- what with the Swastika proudly adorning these incredibly 
maneuverable, exotic flying craft wobbling out of the choppy, 
iceberg-strewn ocean, shaking off pieces of ice and trailing 
cascading water, as they elegantly zoom away at very high speed!

=1FThere is immense worldwide interest in this alleged German Antarctic 
UFO activity, borne out by the fact that large-circulation Japanese 
newspapers, magazines and TV programs devote a lot of space, money 
and time to this story.  One even came to interview me in Toronto and 
ended up hiring one of my own "Zundel-Haus Lieutenants", a volunteer 
who helped around the office, but who had lived in Argentina many 
years and spoke several languages.  This man had personal knowledge 
of the people and places involved.  That expedition is as well a 
fascinating one - but too long to recount here.  Perhaps another time!

Even im America, the topic is a sizzling one.  Right after World War 
II, Col. Byrd, the famous American Arctic Explorer, was sent to 
Antarctica by President Truman in 1947 with a military task force, 
equipped with the latest military hardware including air craft 
carriers, submarines, helicopters, even tanks.  What was he looking 
for - in, of all places, Antarctica?  There are all kinds of 
articles, serious and otherwise, suggesting that he was sent to smoke 
out Hitler's last stronghold there.  National Geographic Magazine 
covered that Task Force in over 40 pages of photographs and texts in 
1947.

When I was younger than I am today and learned about all these things 
in the 1970s, I tried to raise public awareness with my little 
easy-to-read books, which turned quickly into controversial 
bestsellers, going through numerous printings before I myself pulled 
the plug on the "Secret Nazi UFO Project" by not reprinting and not 
writing new material on this topic.  My Jewish detractors made me 
change course, but I want to touch briefly on a widely misreported 
story of my UFO exploits.   It had to do with my last UFO project, a 
planned Antarctic overflight via a leased,  extra-large, fuel tank 
equipped, long range Boeing 747 from South African Airways.

=46or  political reasons, this airline had to fly non-stop from Europe 
to South Africa, not being allowed to land and refuel anywhere in 
Black Africa at the time, courtesy of apartheid.  I had a lead on the 
plane and had tentatively found a crew of Australian and New 
Zealanders with 747 flying skills and training and also Antarctic 
overflight experience.  The idea itself was a bit of a publicity lark 
- we were going to toast each other with champagne over the South 
Pole and drop a Hitler flag onto some glaciers from the plane to send 
a greeting to whoever might have been holed up down below.  It caused 
lots of media interest.  I had already close to ten media and TV 
programs lined up whose executives had pledged the $9,999.- fee to 
send their staff writers and photographers along - to see for 
themselves what was down there!

I was young, rich and adventurous then - and we  were all roaring to 
go.  I had lots of fun and did up to three and four talk shows a week 
on that "Nazi-Antarctic-UFO-Find-the F=FChrer's Bases" story and sold 
lots of UFO booklets to boot - when tragedy struck!  An Air New 
Zealand passenger plane crashed into Mt. Erebus, killing all 
passengers and crew members.  The subsequent, painstaking 
investigation came to no firm conclusions on why the plane crashed. 
The United Nations, in conjunction with the Big Powers - Russia, 
America, England etc. - got involved and declared the Antarctic 
Continent off limits to all civilian overflights.

Coincidence?  It put an end to the Zundel UFO Adventure for good.

The last person to raise my "UFO past" and grill me intensely on it 
was the famous Mike Wallace of "Sixty Minutes" in the 1990s.  Wallace 
seemed to be fascinated and not a little freaked out by the topic. 
What does he have to  fear?

In the summer of 2000, Ingrid Rimland, my new wife, and I visited the 
famous, much-visited Roswell, New Mexico UFO Museum.  Many will 
recall that a UFO allegedly crashed there in 1947 only two years 
after World War II - with little "aliens" on board etc. etc.  While 
there, I bought a nicely produced hardcover book by U.S. Col. Philip 
J.  Corso, (Ret.), who worked deep within the Pentagon hierarchy on a 
secret UFO Project in the 1950s-60s.  On the dust jacket it says 
this:  "...With unprecedented detail, Corso divulges how he 
spearheaded the (U.S.) Army's reverse engineering project that seeded 
Alien technology at American companies such as IBM, Hughes Aircraft, 
Bell Labs and Dow Corning."

We toured the museum for several hours and  talked with employees and 
tour guides there, and what do you know?  Nicely protected by glass I 
spotted some diaramas - life-like models reduced to scale:  "Nazi 
Saucers", Swastikas, Balkenkreuze, Luftwaffe insignias and all - 
being refueled by tankers on the ground with Luftwaffe - and 
SS-uniformed and armed German soldiers guarding the "Nazi UFO base." 
I thought I could not trust my eyes!

Allow me this thought as a German who has refused throughout a 
lifetime to make myself a slave to the Pavlovian Reflex and kick a 
long-dead Adolf Hitler in the shin:

The Americans captured and shipped thousands of German rocket, 
aircraft and other weapons specialists to the US immediately after 
World War II to "seed" exactly the same projects that Col. Corso 
described as their advanced weapons research.  While in Roswell, 
Ingrid and I also went to the American rocket pioneer Stoddard's 
workshop/museum and looked at the tools and scientific gear displayed 
there - a shockingly primitively equipped place, compared to what 
Wernher von Braun had had to work with Hitler's test facilities at 
Peenem=FCnde at the end of World War II.  On that hot summer afternoon 
I wondered to myself if what had really crashed in Roswell might not 
have been one of the German Flying Saucers, keeping an eye on what 
the competition was up to at Mr. Stoddard's lab and test site - and 
that the "little green men" story was a false road flare, planted by 
US authorities at the time!

Why so?  Would it not have been painfully  embarrassing to admit to 
the American and world public that "... here we were, having clubbed 
the Germans to a pulp in massive bombing raids, monkeying around at 
Mr.  Stoddard's lab and other places with that outdated, 
old-fashioned, glorified fire cracker rocketry the departing Hitler 
regime left behind, along with Wernher von Braun - while a 
still-undefeated bunch of high-tech Nazis are hot-rodding it around 
the globe and maybe even through the universe, snugly ensconced in 
their never-captured, Antarctic based UFOs?"

A  man can speculate, can't he?  After all, this is America, isn't 
it?  And red-blooded Americans don't fear - or do they? -  that they 
will faint or turn into some frogs if they discover that a real live 
"Nazi" called Ernst Zundel - according to the ADL, the JDL, the 
Wiesenthalers and other some such outfits that specialize in smears - 
turned out to be a human being after all who has just given them a 
publicly little-known piece of his mind.

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Much of the information on Antarctica and German UFOs are in Ernst 
Zundel's various UFO books, some a bit tattered and grimy after the 
1995 arson of the renowned, world-famous Zundel-Haus in Toronto, set 
ablaze by Germany's enemies 50 years to the day after Germany 
surrendered to the Allies, May 8, 1945.