ZGram - 10/6/2002 - "How readers evaluate the ADL website"

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ZGram - Where Truth is Destiny

October 6, 2002

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

An internet service called "Alexa" (http://www.alexa.com/) has 
developed some means of evaluating and ranking websites.  Included in 
this evaluation is a means for readers to voice their opinions.

Here's your "beloved" Anti-Defamation League (ADL) posing as 
primarily America's "Anti-semitism Cops", as reflected in a total of 
29 reader responses:  (sorry - several are repeats or "tests")

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_____   Private Interest Group Posing as Public Service, 6/21/02
Reviewer: Jim Scalzo

I'm not a "neo-nazi" and yet I totally oppose the ADL -- a private 
organization exclusively devoted to jewish interests -- being 
intimately involved in educating state and federal law enforcement or 
being cited in newspapers as if they were a state or federal agency. 
"The ADL says..." is the jewish equivalent of "The NAACP says..." for 
black, racist interests or "La Raza Unida says..." for Meztizo, 
racist interests. It's clear that these groups are racially focused 
private interest groups. So why is the ADL given special treatment 
and portrayed as if it were a neutral public service? The fact is the 
ADL IS a HATE group. Yet for some reason it is treated with an undue 
degree of respect and prestige in the US government and media. Why? 
Whatever the answer, this fact should have EVERY freedom loving 
American worried. After all, the ADL is one of the strongest 
proponents for internet censorship, which is in direct conflict with 
American Constitutional rights. Why do I oppose the ADL? Because I 
support the Constitution. It's as simple as that.

=1F_____   More Info, 11/21/01
Reviewer: ADL Reviewer
=46or more information on this site, see http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/ 
and http://www.webshells.com/adlwatch/. Interesting reading.

_____   dislike, 4/5/02
Reviewer: tigra
didn't like it...

_____   dislike, 4/5/02
Reviewer: peaceforall
=46rom the name of the website I expected to find true and unbiased 
news because quite frankly I'm totally fed up with the content of FOX 
NEWS and other similar media outlets. Instead, I found a website 
which (like many others) under the disguise of news correction is 
promoting its pro-Israel and anti-arab agenda. Just one question what 
does the mention of Palestine (as mentioned in numerous UN 
resolutions) in a User manual has to do with being anti-semitic? 
Also, being critical of Israel policies does not does not mean being 
anti-Semitic. Supporting so is quite "defamatory". In short, if this 
website is the antidote to defamation, then we sure need an anti 
"anti-defamation" league.

_____   Ludicrous Jewish Supremecists, 4/5/02
Reviewer: Council of Conservative Citizens
Recently sued for millions for DEFAMING people, the ADL is a radical 
anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, Jewish Supremecist group. With a yearly 
budget of 50 million dollars, they print lies and slander about 
anyone who criticizes Israel. They aggressively advocate censorship 
of anyone critical of Israel. Recently they have been whining and 
crying about a shipment of Kalashnikov rifles and hand grenades sent 
to Palestinian refugees. Nevermind the fact the Israel has the third 
largest nuclear arsenal in the world, a genetic weapons program, an 
aggressive policy of murdering their political opponents, the most 
advanced tanks and aircraft in the world thanks to the US. They have 
repeatedly waged aggresive invasions of Arab lands in 1948, 1967, 
1973, and continue to do so today.
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=1F_____   Extremely biased, 4/5/02
Reviewer: Jurgen
This site is extremely biased against all movements on the right. It 
seems that just about every right-wing group in the world is out to 
get the Jews. Laughable. The site openly advocates censorship in the 
media and the Web. The site also fails to understand that 
anti-semitism may not be unjustified in all cases. Perhaps if Jews 
did not have a dual set of ethics. One for the Jews. Another for the 
goyim. Anti-semitism might decrease. Read books by Kevin McDonald and 
Israel Shahak for a more reasoned analysis of anti-semitism. Someone 
once said, "The cause of anti-semitism is Semitism." Check back 
frequently. This review will probably be censored under pressure of 
the ADL.

_____   Extremely biased, 4/5/02
Reviewer: Jurgen
This site is extremely biased against all movements on the right. It 
seems that just about every right-wing group in the world is out to 
get the Jews. Laughable. The site openly advocates censorship in the 
media and the Web. The site also fails to understand that 
anti-semitism may not be unjustified in all cases. Perhaps if Jews 
did not have a dual set of ethics. One for the Jews. Another for the 
goyim. Anti-semitism might decrease. Read books by Kevin McDonald and 
Israel Shahak for a more reasoned analysis of anti-semitism. Someone 
once said, "The cause of anti-semitism is Semitism." Check back 
frequently. This review will probably be censored under pressure of 
the ADL.

_____   pro-israel, 4/5/02
Reviewer: Mo Mo
biased for israel, never posts hate music by non-whites, but posts 
lots of hate music by whites, promotes multiculturalism in america, 
but segregation in israel

_____   The equivalent of the KKK for jews, 5/25/02
Reviewer: Simon L.
When I first heard of the ADL was from CNN where they where quoting 
the Mr. Foxman regarding HATE on the net and Israel. I genuinely 
belived that this was a non-partisan organisation but after goin to 
their website I relised that this is a very very extremist Jewish 
organisation. If Christians where to put out such an organisation it 
will be labeled as a supremacist. I cannot belive that the President 
of United States takes these bigots seriously and that the media 
always use them as reference. They must be doing a lot of corruption.

_____   adl site, 5/26/02
Reviewer: wow
Yawwwn. Tired old same old evil white guy accusations. If the news 
you get, or ideas you have, or beliefs you have, are not adl 
approved... mmmm mmmm. Maybe the descendants of the Anglo Saxon 
Christians who wrote the Constitution should be saying what's right 
for America, instead of some jewish johnny-come-latelies.

_____   Testing, 6/18/02
Reviewer: Roine
testing one two three

_____   Testing, 6/18/02
Reviewer: Roine
Testing, testing, one two three

_____   Does this site try to stop hate or speed it up?, 7/15/02
Reviewer: Aaron
This is the same organization that equated any criticism of Israel 
with Holocaust denial during the 1970's. They have seriously abused 
the anti-semitic label, smearing anybody and eveyrbody with the 
infamous label. Just remember, this Organization can only survive if 
anti-semitism exists. So don't be surprised when they are fanning the 
flames or nurturing new anti-semitic activities; creating the cult of 
anti-anti-semitism as the Jewish scholar Alfred Lilinthial once 
described them.

_____   Oh please..., 7/31/02
Reviewer: Tim Conner
Come, on. Not everything in the world is anti-Semetic. Not everyone 
is a "racist" These self-described tolerant people are the most 
hateful, horrible people I have ever encountered. I'd like to remind 
everyone that having delusions of persecution, as these Jews seem to 
have, is a prime sign of severe mental illness.

_____   Best Site on the Internet, 8/18/02
Reviewer: Prof. Dr. Shlomo Goldenstein (artist, physician, winner of 
the Nobel Price, scientist, brain surgeon
The ADL has the only site on the web that really fights extremism and 
anti-Semitism. Why can=B4t the goyyim understand that all oppostion to 
the Chosen People=B4s agenda is anti-Semitism?

_____   ADL misinterprets anti-Semitism, 9/14/02
Reviewer: pravoslavniia
The ADL seems to label anyone who disagrees with Jewish mainstream 
opinion an anti-Semite. There is a huge difference between 
disagreeing with Judaism or Jewish actions in the world and hating 
Jews. If disagreement means hatred, I must ask every Jew whether that 
means that they hate all Christians because they disagree with the 
tenants of Christianity? Real anti-Semitism will occur when Jews try 
to silence those that voice genuine concern over Jewish misdeeds. 
Even Jews should join in the chorus to condemn these misdeeds - just 
as the Roman Catholic Church has had to take responsibility for its 
mistakes in history. I also want to know why the ADL is silent about 
Jewish hate groups such as JDL, Kahane Chai, Women in Green, Yad 
V'achim or Lubavitch (i.e. campaign to abolish Xmas)? Shouldn't these 
too be of concern if we want to counteract hate? Now there are 
genuine anti-Semites out there - National Alliance, for example. To 
lump in those who merely disagree with Judaism or Zionism with these 
scum is nothing but counterproductive to combatting true 
anti-Semitism.

_____   Garbage website but important, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Observer
Its important to visit this site to understand who really controls US 
congress and government.

_____   ., 9/14/02
Reviewer: Richard Burgess
Without a doubt the worst thing to draw strength from the 'political 
correctness' movement. They equate criticism of Israel with denial of 
the Holocaust, advocate segregation within Israel's borders, and if 
they thought they could get away with it would probably advocate in 
public the ethnic cleansing that their government practices in 
private.

_____   Crap, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Zew Zimmerman
Threat to peace and huan rights.

_____   Crap, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Zew Zimmerman
Threat to peace and huan rights.

_____   Crap, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Zew Zimmerman
Threat to peace and huan rights.

_____   Okay, but all lies, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Isreali
This page is here to fight anti-semitism. Unfortunately, 
Anti-semitism seems to apply to everyone who disagrees with the ADL. 
Anti-defamation seems like a stance necessary for someone who is 
being ridiculed unfairly, as in the palestinians, rather than 
Isrealis, who enjoy constant cheering in the U.S., and everywhere 
else, for that matter.

_____   Go elsewhere for truth, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Rick
You would be much better off at http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com. 
It's more truthful. It's viewpoint is better.

_____   Propaganda, 9/14/02
Reviewer: Rollo
Disgusting tool for promoting Israeli 
propaganda.Anti-American,Anti-constitution, Pro NWO, Pro-fascist. 
Bill Cooper had these goons pegged a long time ago.

_____   anti-semitist, 9/15/02
Reviewer: concerned semite
As a semite, (from sham or sam/sem as you call it) I would think 
these guys would be out there to defend my rights. But it seems they 
are just a tool for zionists, who EXPLOIT and KILL semites. They 
teach their soldiers that 'they' are "Israeli"s and the other 'beats' 
are arabs. These guys ROYALLY suck, and I suggest any truely Jewish 
person would join me in commenting on their suckiness. Btw, to the 
guys posts bad things about Jews, consider the fact that the jewish 
religion has been hijacked by zionist (a tool of ... another group). 
They have more hate speach than any other site I've seen other than 
JDL and Fox news.
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_____   propoganda, 9/15/02
Reviewer: anti anti-defamation league
In the 5 minutes I spent reading the site (before leaving in disgust) 
I discovered that I am an anti-semite. No doubt I will have to stop 
seeing my Jewish (not Zionist) friends here in the UK...? Or maybe 
this site is just Zionist propoganda there to defame the Arab Semites 
and cover up truths you can read just about anywhere on the web 
(except the big American media companies who are also 
owned/run/lobbied by the Zionists). Steer well clear of this one!

_____   Wake Up, 9/15/02
Reviewer: God, Jah, Allah, Jehova, Dios
This site is pure hate. Why is criticism of Israeli Government policy 
anti-semitism? There are a whole bunch of governments with which I 
disagree, it does not mean I hate the people from the country. This 
site is a joke, and so is Israeli Government policy.

_____   tnx monica [for the link], 9/18/02
Reviewer: me
http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america CHECK THAT 
OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
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_____   From a semite, 9/19/02
Reviewer: Semm
As a semite -- A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the 
Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, 
Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians -- 
from Morrocco, do I hate myself for critisizing the actions of 
certain GOVERNMENTS?

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