Up-front, the best place to go for updates on the shameful Dr. Frederick Toben arrest is David Irving's website at http://www.fpp.co.uk
Since Mr. Irving is a professional journalist who has had first-hand experience with similar arrests for Thought-Crimes, he is the right person to check with for the Toben updates. You will find a very fine website in which Mr. Irving takes great personal pride.
To switch topics, here is a nice little genuine "Slade Post" I have culled for your enjoyment and edification from talk.politics.mideast.
It starts with a Holocaust Enforcer's claim that the various musrooming Holocaust memorials are not political and public relations tools for Israel - a claim to which Slade Farney takes rapier-like exception:
Here is Point/Conterpoint:
Holocaust Enforcer:
"Add to that (your) morbid obsession with the Holocaust memorial effort, and you've got the usual specimen" (of anti-semitism)."
Slade:
When you steal MY tax money to pay for it, yes, I got a right to an "obsession". Death is the same for all God's creatures: one per customer. If there were 6 million deaths for 6 million Jews, that still does not make them special. Any other 6 million dead people you care to name suffered the same number of deaths, and many of them were downright nasty experiences. A great many of the 30 to 40 million deaths in World War II WERE nasty.
(Y)ou cannot say MY concern with the "Holocaust" is a "morbid obsession." I will post any bond you care to name that . . .
*** If*** the Holocaust lobby quits stealing my tax money for Holocaust Museums; teaching my children guilt over the Holocaust; coercing money out of banks, insurance companies and others over the holocaust; publishing 3 out of 5 headlines about the holocaust; pushing government sponsored university courses about the holocaust; shutting down free speech all over the world in the name of the one true holocaust doctrine; fining and imprisoning people who say the WRONG things about the holocaust - e.g., five years prison in Israel - fire-bombing and bankrupting people with legal bills over the holocaust; using the holocaust as a lever of guilt to pry billions in foreign and military aid out of the US treasury; banning and burning books and imprisoning booksellers over the holocaust. . .
***Then*** I, too, will never mention the subject again.
Holocaust Enforcer:
"For all I care, you can mention these topics till your face is the colour of blue, since it only serves to expose your real agenda."
Slade:
My "real agenda"? Like maybe you're a conspiracy nut using secret astrology formulas to figure out people's "real agenda"s? Gosh! And now you have figured out mine? Can you tell me sometime what it is? Or better yet, I'll tell you what it is, and then you can tell me whether I am right, based on your astrology work.
I would like to see Equal Justice for All. That means that when some individual is charged with murder, he is tried on the evidence by a jury of his peers, regardless of the race of the person.
And when we have an extradition treaty with another country, they honor that treaty when someone within their borders is sought for a murder within the United States. Case: Sheinbein is a Jew wanted for murder and butchery in Maryland. He escaped to Israel rather than face questioning by our law enforcement, but because he is the son of an Israeli, Israeli refuses to extradite him.
Contrast this with the number of United States citizens who have been stripped of citizenship and deported to Israel for crimes allegedly committed in Europe.
I would also like to see the Sheinbein parents charged with aiding and abetting a fugitive of Justice. But the Sheinbeins are not ordinary Americans: They are Jews, and they will not be charged. That is NOT the application of "Equal Justice".
I would like to see preferential hiring practice prohibitions enforced equally. President Clinton promised a White House that would "look like America", but I see more than half the big faces in his administration are Jewish.
In a country that is supposedly less than 5% Jewish, this could only happen when racial preference is the rule rather than the exception. Any argument about "qualification" is bogus. It is 1) simply not true, 2) not provable, and 3) not a valid defense.
The same racial preference is practiced in many other fields, including cinema production, television, legal practice, banking and finance, and journalism. That is not the application of "Equal Justice".
I would like to see Israel cut loose as a "special friend" of the United States. They have spied on us, sunk a Navy ship and killed Americans with minimal and laggardly apology. They soak up billions of foreign and military aid annually, and use those weapons to commit murder and mayhem in the Middle East, bombing hospitals and orphanages in Lebanon.
They have a miserable human rights record (actually, but maybe not "officially"), imprisoning people without trial and torturing them - it's OK by Israel law! - practicing government enforced apartheid racism, violating UN rules and resolutions, imprisoning people for political speech crimes, and otherwise violating the very principles of human society that we consider important enough to enshrine in our Constitution.
In international politics, the US is a friend to Israel, but Israel is useless to us. It is often argued that Israel is our presence in the Middle East. But when we needed a base there for Desert Storm, we used Saudi Arabia. Israel was just baggage and a liability during that crisis, whining when bombs fell in their back yard and refusing to abide by any general strategy.
One of the principles in US law concerns the divided loyalties of people who are loyal to foreign nations. This concern is alive and well with other nations, but it is never applied to Israel.
Israel lobbyists work full time from within the Clinton administration without registering as foreign agents. When those three Clintonoid Jews showed up at the "town hall meeting" at the Ohio University to sell America on bombing Iraq again, they were lobbying for Israel, not the United States whose interests they were sworn to serve.
Permitting foreign agents to operate on US soil and appointing them to high government positions is not "Equal Application" of the law, and it is just plain not smart.
Are you going to stop pretending this is NOT about Israel?
--Slade
Thought for the Day:
"In 1946 or 1947 we hanged the German general who ordered the bombing of Belgrade after the latter refused to accede to a Hitler ultimatum."
(Letter to the Zundelsite)